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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1660834907; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=8BcPPAUQ4YGPDcX51vYO2mUaGKHx0gJtY98bXbduWjQ=; b=W1Jxrb5NTALwE5zjlAzp4hlGJh15kBxt2zLQUcvqn2V34rL8I1J3nYHyaHD/HhqZ8J6byi s2kOjjFP9pv1l+MuZsYllZou6UQIUQO6Go/Gmj10eCWe4jIQgj25ww0k78vpnpFoEejGOZ z79pCfsjfhT/PIs7gMhLOpI+D+srXV2Wtko3BX+Zg7IkpjPiHY9uCaU3VmBdtNisMGJQSz RhxJQpZEAwyf0E6bVbgxF4S8x7hbkaX+3Qr5sS0hEM4CCXP3L9l1WnMpI+p0lH4TK0yggP 4/ela17kbLoSCm3LwKhTx54vwKn1epNq+CSjm44ikca/ORr+enfYPclJXA3s9w== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1660834907; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=QdTrM39hhHskyuuniZQVay5hhP4cGHhe5nooUMrr4MaulElRiYC0wmtwIUra+hMF/jMR1l R4QWngrOXB6DX1/9/7mwLkubrwN7ta3W0sAIlxatHxjgU0sMGBBRD19mgIoxqisHZ6V9s5 5N4+nKmzhSJk0KR5NZ8Nb117T8JEvrOYXicXl3F7huNG8VOgyxlg7wxRTUisz/E/Is8fY3 RVGIywyy+n3Ap6IKRDF09GkvrVE0LVUEPMfgSy8pv61aq6EqtNCZtF2msVdf6wP916p0qL znUu1o/O4fJGs0KsOZSnfhIWQ5dEWtlJQvdJb9GSniAFxFfhI6jEsjztAh4YPg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=gJ74eqtl; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.36 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=gJ74eqtl; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: C85CC3ACDF X-Spam-Score: -4.36 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: U0zCbNcFzcOj Hi, On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 at 22:22, Csepp wrote: > Mumi and Debbugs have different search interfaces and seem to use > different ordering. Hum, I am confused because from my understanding, there is one Debbugs instance =E2=80=93 which is quickly said some Perl scripts managing mailing lists and thus implementing a bug tracker database. This database is then manipulated via SOAP-interface. This Debbugs instance is out of the control of the Guix project, AFAIK. On the top of this instance, various front-ends are implemented: + historical one running at: https://debbugs.gnu.org=20 + Mumi running at: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/ + emacs-debbugs running locally And even Debian folks provide many others, as python3-debianbts or reportbug coming with the CLI tool bts, mailscripts, etc. https://git.spwhitton.name/mailscripts/tree/ =20 > IMHO these papercuts add up. Browsing and cross-referencing issues and > patches is way harder than it is with other forges. Well, harder depends on the point of view. :-) Indeed, you need more than just type bug#12345 to cross-link. Using a descent mailreader, it appears to me easy to have helper. For instance, using Emacs, I have a custom function [1] =E2=80=9CM-x my/guix-issues=E2=80= =9C which adds to the kill-ring an URL. Recently, Ricardo added Message-ID to Mumi which helps too; using emacs-notmuch, just "ci=E2=80=9D for stashing a= nd then pasting elsewhere. 1: About browsing, Mumi needs more love. :-) > Not saying we need to switch, maybe it's easier to just add the missing > functionality. Or maybe it doesn't matter to anyone else. Well, the GNU instance of Debbugs has many flaws. But the project will not switch from it, IMHO. That=E2=80=99s why Mumi as front-end tries to im= prove the situation by adding the missing functionalities. Cheers, simon