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[72.10.132.94]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w7-20020ac86b07000000b003b9bca1e093sm2798817qts.27.2023.03.14.17.56.39 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 14 Mar 2023 17:56:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Maxim Cournoyer To: Andreas Enge Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: State of core-updates References: <87pm9bmix7.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 20:56:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Andreas Enge's message of "Tue, 14 Mar 2023 19:02:22 +0100") Message-ID: <87ilf2ltmh.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2d; envelope-from=maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com; helo=mail-qv1-xf2d.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: X-Migadu-Queue-Id: BBD5F23BDF X-Spam-Score: -12.06 X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -12.06 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-TUID: Xix7mG5WMDgi Hi Andreas, Andreas Enge writes: > Hello Maxim, > > Am Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 11:50:12AM -0400 schrieb Maxim Cournoyer: >> That looks promising. Should we spun a differently named branch to >> avoid people sending core-updates change? This was discussed in the >> past and agreed to (main branches do not *freeze* themselves), instead >> we use git to branch to our will. > > well, I consider core-updates to be frozen, people should not send any > more patches there unless they repair things that are currently broken > (and, one may add, a regression to master). I do not expect this to > include any world rebuilding changes any more. > > And then the goal will be to not have a core-updates branch in the future, > but separate feature branches as discussed at the Guix days. > > So the aim is to merge core-updates to master, and then to delete this > branch once and for all. (Of course, there can then be a new feature > branch "core-team" or something like this, for changes concerning the > core of the system.) Thanks for the explanations. I'm out of the loop, not having been able to attend physically the last Guix Days event. Was there a recap of the discussions posted somewhere? Was the freeze announce somewhere? I wholly missed that, and I try to pay attention. > So I think there is no need to branch from the branch! > (And just as a reminder, let us not forget the staging branch that needs > a similar treatment.) OK! We could probably merge staging into master and be done already. -- Thanks, Maxim