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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.73 X-Spam-Score: -5.73 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 9ECEF32631 X-TUID: VwvK0Yhs0vkM Hi Guixy people, I=E2=80=99d never heard of SWH before I started hacking on Guix last fall,= =20 and it struck me as rather a good idea. However, I=E2=80=99ve seen some=20 things lately which have soured me on them. They appear to be using the archive to build LLMs:=20 https://www.softwareheritage.org/2024/02/28/responsible-ai-with-starcoder2/ I was also distressed to see how poorly they treated a developer=20 who wished to update their name:=20 https://cohost.org/arborelia/post/4968198-the-software-heritag=20 https://cohost.org/arborelia/post/5052044-the-software-heritag GPL=E2=80=99d software I=E2=80=99ve created has been packaged for Guix, whi= ch I=20 assume means it=E2=80=99s been included in SWH. While I=E2=80=99m dealing = with=20 their (IMO: unethical) opt-out process, I likely also need to stop=20 new copies from being uploaded again in the future. Is there a way to indicate, in a Guix package, that it should=20 *never* be included in SWH? Is there a way to tell Guix to never download source from SWH? I want absolutely nothing to do with them. Thanks, =E2=80=94 Ian