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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.03 X-Spam-Score: -5.03 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 83D477FFF3 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-TUID: Vt4EId05DTUk Hi Kaelyn, Morgan, Kaelyn writes: > On Tuesday, October 1st, 2024 at 1:23 PM, Morgan Arnold=20 > wrote: > > I'd love to know where any opposition may be at as well. At this=20 > point > I have a private channel which actually replaces much of the > bootloader and initrd functionality (in part to support ZFS in=20 > the > initrd using https://issues.guix.gnu.org/55231). In the past=20 > year, I > actually took advantage of having basically replicated much of=20 > the > initrd functionality in my channel to create a simple bootloader=20 > based > on the Linux kernel (with the EFI stubloader) and a custom=20 > initrd that > uses kexec to boot the actual system. It still needs a lot of=20 > polish, > but has been good enough that combined with a few other small=20 > hacks > and workarounds, I have several systems now booting with ZFS=20 > roots > (some unencrypted, some using native encryption). I have done=20 > little > to upstream most of it, or even to share what I've done, because=20 > of > the seeming resistance to ZFS. > I don=E2=80=99t think there=E2=80=99s resistance to ZFS. I do think there = are=20 some legitimate open questions around licensing[1], but the main=20 issue seems to be that the contributor of #45692 chose to express=20 their frustration with the slow pace of Guix patch review[2] in=20 counterproductive and borderline abusive ways[3][4]. Personally, I=E2=80=99d very much like to see improved support for ZFS in=20 Guix. I have one machine with a cobbled-together Guix ZFS setup,=20 but proper support is a blocker for moving my primary ZFS-using=20 system off Debian. Thanks, =E2=80=94 Ian [1]: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/45692#75 [2]: Which I *extremely* sympathize with. [3]: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/45692#72 [4]: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/45692#78