vim modelines for guix repository

vim modelines for guix repository

[ng0]

Occasionally I use vim on systems to work on guix and other projects. As
far as I see it, there is nothing similar to .dir-locals.el (the per
directory local variables in emacs) for vim.

We should include modelines for every file to reflect what .dir-locals.el
does when you use emacs. It's probably an unpopular opinion, but I think
we should do this to be more open to people who do not use emacs.
Support for vim and emacs covers most editors which are there to
support.

Re: vim modelines for guix repository

[Efraim Flashner]

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On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 09:31:33PM +0000, ng0 wrote:
> Occasionally I use vim on systems to work on guix and other projects. As
> far as I see it, there is nothing similar to .dir-locals.el (the per
> directory local variables in emacs) for vim.
> 
> We should include modelines for every file to reflect what .dir-locals.el
> does when you use emacs. It's probably an unpopular opinion, but I think
> we should do this to be more open to people who do not use emacs.
> Support for vim and emacs covers most editors which are there to
> support.
> 

IMO there's too many files to go adding to the bottom of all the files.
Something I've been thinking about is learning enough vimscript to write
a guix.vim file that'll take care of formatting.

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Re: vim modelines for guix repository

[ng0]

Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> writes:

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> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 09:31:33PM +0000, ng0 wrote:
>> Occasionally I use vim on systems to work on guix and other projects. As
>> far as I see it, there is nothing similar to .dir-locals.el (the per
>> directory local variables in emacs) for vim.
>> 
>> We should include modelines for every file to reflect what .dir-locals.el
>> does when you use emacs. It's probably an unpopular opinion, but I think
>> we should do this to be more open to people who do not use emacs.
>> Support for vim and emacs covers most editors which are there to
>> support.
>> 
>
> IMO there's too many files to go adding to the bottom of all the files.
> Something I've been thinking about is learning enough vimscript to write
> a guix.vim file that'll take care of formatting.

I agree, this could be more useful. The best approach would be to move
this to a separate project, so that other systems can create packages
for this to install it.

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guix emacs mode (was: Re: vim modelines for guix repository)

[ng0]

ng0 <ng0@we.make.ritual.n0.is> writes:

> Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> writes:
>
>> [ Unknown signature status ]
>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 09:31:33PM +0000, ng0 wrote:
>>> Occasionally I use vim on systems to work on guix and other projects. As
>>> far as I see it, there is nothing similar to .dir-locals.el (the per
>>> directory local variables in emacs) for vim.
>>> 
>>> We should include modelines for every file to reflect what .dir-locals.el
>>> does when you use emacs. It's probably an unpopular opinion, but I think
>>> we should do this to be more open to people who do not use emacs.
>>> Support for vim and emacs covers most editors which are there to
>>> support.
>>> 
>>
>> IMO there's too many files to go adding to the bottom of all the files.
>> Something I've been thinking about is learning enough vimscript to write
>> a guix.vim file that'll take care of formatting.
>
> I agree, this could be more useful. The best approach would be to move
> this to a separate project, so that other systems can create packages
> for this to install it.

Different issue, but somehow related: Could we move the emacs
specific settings into an emacs mode if emacs modes can detect
some common structure or however we specify that the current file
which is edited is guix and not guile/scm alone?

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Re: guix emacs mode

[Alex Kost]

ng0 (2016-10-28 08:30 +0000) wrote:

> ng0 <ng0@we.make.ritual.n0.is> writes:
>
>> Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> writes:
>>
>>> [ Unknown signature status ]
>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 09:31:33PM +0000, ng0 wrote:
>>>> Occasionally I use vim on systems to work on guix and other projects. As
>>>> far as I see it, there is nothing similar to .dir-locals.el (the per
>>>> directory local variables in emacs) for vim.
>>>> 
>>>> We should include modelines for every file to reflect what .dir-locals.el
>>>> does when you use emacs. It's probably an unpopular opinion, but I think
>>>> we should do this to be more open to people who do not use emacs.
>>>> Support for vim and emacs covers most editors which are there to
>>>> support.
>>>> 
>>>
>>> IMO there's too many files to go adding to the bottom of all the files.
>>> Something I've been thinking about is learning enough vimscript to write
>>> a guix.vim file that'll take care of formatting.
>>
>> I agree, this could be more useful. The best approach would be to move
>> this to a separate project, so that other systems can create packages
>> for this to install it.
>
> Different issue, but somehow related: Could we move the emacs
> specific settings into an emacs mode if emacs modes can detect
> some common structure or however we specify that the current file
> which is edited is guix and not guile/scm alone?

Sorry, I don't understand the question.  What does «move the emacs
specific settings into an emacs mode» mean?

Also there is no difference between some guix ".scm" file and a usual
guile ".scm" file.

-- 
Alex

Re: guix emacs mode

[ng0]

Alex Kost <alezost@gmail.com> writes:

> ng0 (2016-10-28 08:30 +0000) wrote:
>
>> ng0 <ng0@we.make.ritual.n0.is> writes:
>>
>>> Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> writes:
>>>
>>>> [ Unknown signature status ]
>>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 09:31:33PM +0000, ng0 wrote:
>>>>> Occasionally I use vim on systems to work on guix and other projects. As
>>>>> far as I see it, there is nothing similar to .dir-locals.el (the per
>>>>> directory local variables in emacs) for vim.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We should include modelines for every file to reflect what .dir-locals.el
>>>>> does when you use emacs. It's probably an unpopular opinion, but I think
>>>>> we should do this to be more open to people who do not use emacs.
>>>>> Support for vim and emacs covers most editors which are there to
>>>>> support.
>>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> IMO there's too many files to go adding to the bottom of all the files.
>>>> Something I've been thinking about is learning enough vimscript to write
>>>> a guix.vim file that'll take care of formatting.
>>>
>>> I agree, this could be more useful. The best approach would be to move
>>> this to a separate project, so that other systems can create packages
>>> for this to install it.
>>
>> Different issue, but somehow related: Could we move the emacs
>> specific settings into an emacs mode if emacs modes can detect
>> some common structure or however we specify that the current file
>> which is edited is guix and not guile/scm alone?
>
> Sorry, I don't understand the question.  What does «move the emacs
> specific settings into an emacs mode» mean?

I don't understand much, well to be honest: nothing, on how modes
in emacs work. I meant that we maybe could move whatever the
.dir-locals.el sets into some external modules/files/set if
possible at all. It probably works for gentoo .ebuild because
they have a different file extension than bash, but at their core
it is bash (if I don't mix it up right now). The sentence below
looks like this will not work at all for guix.

> Also there is no difference between some guix ".scm" file and a usual
> guile ".scm" file.

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Re: guix emacs mode

[Alex Kost]

ng0 (2016-10-28 10:19 +0000) wrote:

> Alex Kost <alezost@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> ng0 (2016-10-28 08:30 +0000) wrote:
[...]
>>> Different issue, but somehow related: Could we move the emacs
>>> specific settings into an emacs mode if emacs modes can detect
>>> some common structure or however we specify that the current file
>>> which is edited is guix and not guile/scm alone?
>>
>> Sorry, I don't understand the question.  What does «move the emacs
>> specific settings into an emacs mode» mean?
>
> I don't understand much, well to be honest: nothing, on how modes
> in emacs work. I meant that we maybe could move whatever the
> .dir-locals.el sets into some external modules/files/set if
> possible at all.

Ah, now I see.  The purpose of ".dir-locals.el" is to set some variables
locally for the current project (the contents of the current directory).
I think it doesn't make sense to move dir-locals anywhere, as it is used
to set up emacs (to set fill-column, to disable TABs, etc.) when you
edit guix code from a git checkout.

> It probably works for gentoo .ebuild because
> they have a different file extension than bash, but at their core
> it is bash (if I don't mix it up right now). The sentence below
> looks like this will not work at all for guix.
>
>> Also there is no difference between some guix ".scm" file and a usual
>> guile ".scm" file.

-- 
Alex