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From: Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>,
	"Guillaume Le Vaillant" <glv@posteo.net>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: When substitute download + decompression is CPU-bound
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2021 09:10:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h7ni62nt.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bldr191v.fsf@gnu.org>

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Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

> One takeaway for me is that zstd decompression remains an order of
> magnitude faster than the others, regardless of the compression level.
>
> Another one is that at level 10 and higher zstd achieves compression
> ratios that are more in the ballpark of lzip.

Hmmm, this is roughly true for lzip < level 6, but as soon as lzip hits level 6
(the default!) it compresses up to twice as much!

> If we are to change the compression methods used at ci.guix.gnu.org, we
> could use zstd >= 10.

On Guillaume's graph, the compression speed at the default level 3 is
about 110 MB/s, while at level 10 it's about 40 MB/s, which is
approximately the gzip speed.

If server compression time does not matter, then I agree, level >= 10
would be a good option.

What about zstd level 19 then?  It's as slow as lzip to compress, but
decompresses still blazingly fast, which is what we are trying to
achieve here, _while_ offering a compression ration in the ballpark of
lzip level 6 (but still not that of lzip level 9).

> We could also drop gzip, but there are probably pre-1.1 daemons out
> there that understand nothing but gzip¹, so perhaps that’ll have to
> wait.  Now, compressing substitutes three times may be somewhat
> unreasonable.

Agreed, maybe release an announcement and give it a few months / 1 year?

Cheers!

-- 
Pierre Neidhardt
https://ambrevar.xyz/

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-01-15  8:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-14 22:20 When substitute download + decompression is CPU-bound Ludovic Courtès
2020-12-14 22:29 ` Julien Lepiller
2020-12-14 22:59 ` Nicolò Balzarotti
2020-12-15  7:52   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-12-15  9:45     ` Nicolò Balzarotti
2020-12-15  9:54       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-12-15 10:03         ` Nicolò Balzarotti
2020-12-15 10:13           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-12-15 10:14             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-12-15 11:42     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-12-15 12:31       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-12-18 14:59         ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-12-18 15:33           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-12-15 11:36   ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-12-15 11:45     ` Nicolò Balzarotti
2020-12-15 10:40 ` Jonathan Brielmaier
2020-12-15 19:43   ` Joshua Branson
2021-01-07 10:45     ` Guillaume Le Vaillant
2021-01-07 11:00       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2021-01-07 11:33         ` Guillaume Le Vaillant
2021-01-14 21:51       ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-01-14 22:08         ` Nicolò Balzarotti
2021-01-28 17:53           ` Are gzip-compressed substitutes still used? Ludovic Courtès
2021-03-17 17:12             ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-03-17 17:33               ` Léo Le Bouter
2021-03-17 18:08                 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2021-03-18  0:03                   ` zimoun
2021-03-18 16:00                     ` Vagrant Cascadian
2021-03-18 18:53                       ` Leo Famulari
2021-03-20 11:23                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-03-17 18:06               ` zimoun
2021-03-17 18:20               ` Jonathan Brielmaier
2021-03-18 17:25               ` Pierre Neidhardt
2021-01-15  8:10         ` Pierre Neidhardt [this message]
2021-01-28 17:58           ` When substitute download + decompression is CPU-bound Ludovic Courtès
2021-01-29  9:45             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2021-01-29 11:23               ` Guillaume Le Vaillant
2021-01-29 11:55                 ` Nicolò Balzarotti
2021-01-29 12:13                   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2021-01-29 13:06                     ` Guillaume Le Vaillant
2021-01-29 14:55                     ` Nicolò Balzarotti
2021-02-01 22:18                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-01-29 13:33             ` zimoun

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