From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id BaE+OZkfc2CSGgAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2021 18:11:05 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id mJf9MZkfc2CnUwAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2021 16:11:05 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 715F137AEA for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2021 18:11:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:53730 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lVcfw-00053Q-Au for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2021 12:11:04 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58754) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lVcfa-00053G-Dc for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2021 12:10:42 -0400 Received: from mx1.dismail.de ([78.46.223.134]:32239) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lVcfP-0004Eq-98 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2021 12:10:39 -0400 Received: from mx1.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 49570466; Sun, 11 Apr 2021 18:10:26 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=dismail.de; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=20190914; bh=iolRCfrcCBEUkoydlsLRUocqxyDag105NY 7QnJNGl84=; b=uPqfUklM3hBpyTcXRvko6J05obNI/DAEaT/y10jZgJq7kwibpi qHgLsq/OTiLw8uhecf1ZmhXdcn2osm8c/zscYIUbNtdxTsBAMevWZJgZBGIn/HPu RLfhD3ZG95bGO/r+uiF63FXJojw9b/W7ar49iSVd7cvjgOFIX2yDbMn4VOl6Wfpc ZgcR8IevR8yiAEmPgmok86aLu/iG1tBp7KAwJrzmOvw5nw7Fsa1F8zRSZyWYBVlI SNunBfOrzhKBOD0NMSSTrl8C/IvMlUusc7/E5Cjk7jkZLSokcBJE6JWh5d49zoAx aeCrJuSDhNCC4r4j5eke2ZizXNCR7/1WFhRw== Received: from smtp2.dismail.de ( [10.240.26.12]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id f2976fb8; Sun, 11 Apr 2021 18:10:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp2.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 1cacf1e4; Sun, 11 Apr 2021 18:10:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 76a0b361 (TLSv1.3:AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Sun, 11 Apr 2021 18:10:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Joshua Branson To: ilmu Cc: Leo Famulari , "guix-devel@gnu.org" Subject: Re: Meta guix: making money with GNU Guix: slightly off topic References: <877dlfl7pv.fsf@dismail.de> <878s5ucbqw.fsf@dismail.de> <3pHQHXgNvCHHoVfQNOdr0Uk19ugqGi-38Jz45M5qtPq3GZxbRFYl8vRWafIjSQCjHR_dmO71q62ToLX_M9lQ0LfBjjMGTOzCKhNjA9plmN4=@rishi.is> Mail-Followup-To: ilmu , Leo Famulari , "guix-devel@gnu.org" Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 12:10:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: <3pHQHXgNvCHHoVfQNOdr0Uk19ugqGi-38Jz45M5qtPq3GZxbRFYl8vRWafIjSQCjHR_dmO71q62ToLX_M9lQ0LfBjjMGTOzCKhNjA9plmN4=@rishi.is> (ilmu@rishi.is's message of "Thu, 08 Apr 2021 20:39:30 +0000") Message-ID: <87h7kcby4x.fsf@dismail.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=78.46.223.134; envelope-from=jbranso@dismail.de; helo=mx1.dismail.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1618157465; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=YyL7ul2kCTBO4i8uAeed89Gj/QeZ7Bdd3YtG5zt2eu8=; b=VwfKTCB8Ta/h//VX/q876Ew9tlgOW3rLSQaqbmdTvmoFugWkapww60bdt9GqMCbny898Pd jefOSBdyBpYATMiBaS8T7q+m9u5pQKFkAX3zVqN0D1emunRjVyreXwFKo52qxIUF28OSH6 iSFlheWRUY3ZTf+fPMkJtV3B3zPWveyry/neh9escKAXmpbXOx/ZTGXcBzxYX3WtJtnVTV hto90A4ZO0wDEIqWDcUBnYYEEVu+4QypSyaQMdWfv4WYhsk5fmQ+LyoFWvo/b49AHkSAK2 jAEqGKF1dNnSSytQ2c3sNyPhLApYICzjUi8wIsaR9/4Q1try7YLWR2YmzROo+Q== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1618157465; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=i1qWlzu+CRrcVbWWa1D9yD9F38GhFBA3QtANZl3t/dVEWvIa9evN9RmH2wa4YX0+8A/qRZ //MJd7BxB64JCjEcYEJNbGFlmY1iPEKUUwGXATYH9o7iAzY2P9WbrL0MJv9Y0TOF/i8d0u 2h1a2ECU/GkV3QocAxyO9u8k46KU3xuL9AfKeNrcZYTlAvt+J0Yjwz2HbLMg0LvT56yCXV kVt9wb0Ne0OUJk7LGYqDdBheusLA2oJylEnkTUqKcXDXXmWeO+l0MTZszzs6TBk9ociKX7 3MKMBdch6fMBxlnLjE7AaBptH62aMG9EyC2lFqNZsZCPoXA16Vs/gap0fULjtQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=dismail.de header.s=20190914 header.b=uPqfUklM; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=dismail.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.63 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=dismail.de header.s=20190914 header.b=uPqfUklM; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=dismail.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 715F137AEA X-Spam-Score: -1.63 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: DNEfW9/z+cXw ilmu writes: > Hi guys, > > A bit crazy maybe but how about we completely redefine what money is? Sure, why not? That's what guix is all about. Let's dare new things! > > I wrote "this" (the attachment or http://datalisp.is) over the weekend > (in one sitting! very raw, sorry if it's hard to understand, feel free > to ask me any questions). Raw? perhaps. Attention grabbing introduction? YES! > > Actually from seeing this: > >> Joshua Branson (joshuaBPMan in #guix) >> Sent from Emacs and Gnus >> https://gnucode.me >> https://video.hardlimit.com/accounts/joshua_branson/video-channels >> https://propernaming.org >> "You can have whatever you want, as long as you help >> enough other people get what they want." - Zig Ziglar > > It looks like you basically have the right idea about the economics, > the paper describes something similar (get paid by helping others find > the proper names for things). That's what Earl Nightinggale said too! Something like "Money going into your wallet is directly proportional to your service or contribution." > > The document basically explains how to make a "cryptocurrency" that uses something like "automated science" as proof of work. > > Please leave preconceived notions at the door, this is not like any > other cryptocurrency you are familiar with and the bit about automatic > science is also slightly inaccurate, really it is hard to classify > this idea (if it even works). > > However! I have access to funding and some other people and this pdf > serves as a general overview for this (admittedly very ambitious) > project. The first step (that I have in mind) is to make an education > startup that teaches programming to children and teenagers, by using > the ideas in the paper this can be automated and the network > self-perpetuating. I honestly have a hard time grasping the concepts you present. My good friend happens to be a retired CEO of several global companies. He's got an engineering mind. I'll show him the paper and see if he understands it! :) My jabber ID is the same as my email address. Feel free to communicate with me directly that way! > > I am also very interested in making a "nixos-infect" type thing for Guix and asked about that in the past on the mailing lists. Yes please! > > Let me know how you decide to proceed, I'm sure we can cooperate. > > Kind regards, > - Ilmu > -- Joshua Branson (joshuaBPMan in #guix) Sent from Emacs and Gnus https://gnucode.me https://video.hardlimit.com/accounts/joshua_branson/video-channels https://propernaming.org "You can have whatever you want, as long as you help enough other people get what they want." - Zig Ziglar