From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id 0BxFKPckbWExeAAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:40:39 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id cB4MJPckbWHlJQAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 07:40:39 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67F0928674 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:40:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:58310 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcNGA-0002BF-Jh for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 03:40:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49242) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcNFu-000298-QA for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 03:40:24 -0400 Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr ([192.134.164.83]:9950) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcNFo-0003dv-VT for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Oct 2021 03:40:21 -0400 IronPort-HdrOrdr: =?us-ascii?q?A9a23=3A391PfaupnMMqv/2AXI6WkLbN7skDr9V00zEX?= =?us-ascii?q?/kB9WHVpm62j5r2TdZEgviMc5wx/ZJhNo6H5BED/ex3hHO9OkPMs1N6ZNWGLhI?= =?us-ascii?q?LPFvAB0WKI+UyaJ8SRzJ8l6U4ZSchD4CqcNykdsS6HijPIdOrJiLG8mpxBz4/l?= =?us-ascii?q?okuEzGpRGsVdB24SMHf/LqWXLDMmOXJffKDshfZ6mw=3D=3D?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.84,326,1620684000"; d="scan'208";a="534436287" Received: from unknown (HELO ribbon) ([193.50.110.252]) by mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 18 Oct 2021 09:40:11 +0200 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Ryan Prior Subject: Re: Tricking peer review References: <874k9if7am.fsf@inria.fr> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 27 =?utf-8?Q?Vend=C3=A9miaire?= an 230 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:40:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Ryan Prior's message of "Fri, 15 Oct 2021 22:28:26 +0000") Message-ID: <87h7dedbms.fsf@inria.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=192.134.164.83; envelope-from=ludovic.courtes@inria.fr; helo=mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr X-Spam_score_int: -41 X-Spam_score: -4.2 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, Liliana Marie Prikler Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1634542839; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=/VBaQQZfve2aN+2YyeWuJ6a1i1vog3nxSSJyzFMbHjM=; b=J4p1EsweUA7WJjKu15EkdMvSxhxzpL04RRgO6kl5m0A0AYsQYsaEGoEbu/0tpx9S0DC787 wAB51n51M5UN3nqblM+WhgCU+/WiT+MXUCpUZg+P76mbJ15DoA+Vv1FCpRW/XQHHfPmAf1 NDsPrjAhGrxVQxMzc/MrO8G7nTVTZvhchHNN8Boaz1li+Hygy8QZ2PVqmvcbaJc28gsMYp wFjdwwe37+Sagrjx9gv/A74JxU/wIk0g9F/QeVOJjybRoYT02wx6LxOjwqak6O58WpSoLO 5XRFHATCz4fi8LqODPtE2aNqQm47PYAbIUy8ZNTXLfywbiyimnRlHPltQcgjog== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1634542839; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=r5+2txA+PekrGqI3x3llz7DRTAvGu8UwBcqmpXzZLAbj4yUMjcIkq6j1hKwg62FBUB+DHH h7xUZRW6TdyOylTHQSx2iXhtTZ3597hE2CDHLum5dlLs+FkDNvyQUkup8A1Ay0jLEWct5F MGOr9hRztczOfo35SJo0MJJbgauxhgcfZk1WFsB6whTke+XOCoQnLyungWtuXMVvwKHHF7 jTQsOtq725fUXa9SLp6hkCnIKOx5pGND8Lnw4ZL0YNRE4Y5fe17qOUNIJ/ombR07S1zdJw zjPEYZhqffYBPOaz7MXyTtCepIa+t6HQZVhz7Hv3sMEhZJ2kxa1IZhTtbUQwvg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.02 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 67F0928674 X-Spam-Score: -3.02 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: RQkKXQq0Faxb Hi Ryan, Ryan Prior skribis: > I've suggested this before and this seems like a good time to bring it > up again: can we create a database of known "bad" Guix commit hashes, > and make time-machine fetch the list and warn before it'll visit one > of those hashes? This would resolve the land-mine problem and > generally de-risk our git tree, which is maintained by fallible > volunteers who will occasionally push tragic commits. How would we define =E2=80=9Cbad=E2=80=9D though? By definition, packages found in past Guix revisions are missing features, have unfixed bugs and unpatched security vulnerabilities. Yet, pinning the Guix revision or re-deploying a past revision as-is has its uses and I=E2=80=99d say it=E2=80=99s a key feature, even. I don=E2=80=99t think there are =E2=80=9Ctragic=E2=80=9D commits either. U= sually, one records a revision that works for them and use the same months later. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.