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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel , Katherine Cox-Buday Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1636476783; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=7DGJ3PYI+ot+Ik/CrEjfS277taSsNKMPMKB0HVSieto=; b=FAh4Bx+nFOPnChrEVJD0DVAtOjEAAZ2w2f23JYwliUFvatoyFAtFjXbjKS/6vEcbppT3vj gxYJ/jBVphilqoZ34nkOHyapUrudp1R9nBXsTY9b8ZmUDWbjuqstJwXTPaRjIlIHyvtV3Z jaiwaKdKf/gEiajQ2DGzF8SZhnHqo5Q9KmCsuUQ3f1xFj2Rm1pg108nlxkKzA/oyL/FzyE wNYInsw/rVJjn8qVVfKtpS6keG/NYT1JOQiu5DUAb4MQh1FGpeJebGL9QuxCE9+De+cd9V OP2tqPmfegehn2sIGhs0Saido6p8Q7CZcesML5y0HgsysqpNbNYccO9e+ldA9Q== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1636476783; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=ld0GoDRWiVvvcTMNYMjnkf4JQmJ36olpkvP8e/6QRLwzpGVdzedQpIs/SZOK6PQMnb9F4z XG/NGJBZvYIyYBIOJ727/0tqqmTvKX9fEofyyu7yCuZj9g+AQhUtDClZN25v7Cd67ulUxu MvolTgZpU/LxQSY/RxRPWJ9KUWiZowS3dq4L4rlCJMamXKTtoxumqF8o+HyRs7VcCMGrVV 9pMzLF8meg/xFW8PsWsdDBa9YawtAtXchF4jnzXYH7Xnc3V+QsYvDDcp9jY596SDypNCdE YoCs1Io1IT54gvg1iGAI7KcnWxz3+BMhRnBpL0GqtdBPmSiFc4+6gIMGm6S1BQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=OH+OFpbT; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.12 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=OH+OFpbT; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 456991C40D X-Spam-Score: -2.12 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: a76wHZ+TZ9HQ Hi, zimoun skribis: > On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 at 17:08, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > >> As zimoun wrote, a big question is formalization. I haven=E2=80=99t yet= taken >> the time to look at those other project RFC processes I mentioned, but >> we should do that. Important questions are: how do we determine whether >> a change is important enough to be RFC-worthy? How do we determine >> whether it=E2=80=99s accepted or withdrawn? Perhaps that will unfold br= oader >> questions about structuring and decision-making. >> >> If anyone feels like giving a hand of this formalization effort, please >> feel empowered to do so! > > I could volunteer for being part of the formalization effort. Yay! :-) > However, as I said elsewhere, this effort should start be collecting > what do we consider as changes requiring formal process? Agreed, that=E2=80=99s what I meant above. I don=E2=80=99t have an answer, but I think we should look at what others a= re doing, what criteria they use, etc. The Nix RFC process is probably the closest match in terms of application domain, but maybe others are closer to the way we practice decision-making in Guix. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.