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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1683148253; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=nLbudQfmPs4GKrwD9DcnXOb9kA7QYsEU5T5yBHsOOpEk7GyFor/M9lI+LrXmhIS8fk73AP bTLGnCCLaRbRbd7zuxhM0/phehhNQ6oiy3VeaeAePEzWr/ScrdRnWvpNu5Qp4J1OO9/pp8 5ZOceYT3BbMkwiIDjjhBcRlT5QHIBZt4YjvLmFdTpeWe7W7L5z9vD2JpJRB9vbE+l7eb7L YtDTtllP2zlxNTiJ3gNxpnIG8lQqLLzIQseR6/+8vn+n19K0kFhtLMmbkcIAOo5i7GczaR KFt112rk2WPSZqocitgVqan2n0rijpsiTOkIelWw4ef0roy/9y9tVeax9lMv7Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=bFi0ceef; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1683148253; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=RJeUl+cww9JsOq/O6P5IxSDydzEBEMuUXoLIhIynL0g=; b=X28+w63o9hU+Gyc8JrUoBg6eA0WSMXdhr4uoHXm0pGeVHA3yFy5f7m6OMo56jp/TV5OCbH Kx8mbHDddPc3agCWAaRLpg70mG3V5EGQOeg8lrZoYUcarrWtADmAxsQG8VH5zQ7JkXYkGT mGOLg7RLz2hH5yt3HU8rEyr2AIhUSsFQQh5om/RZOgTxO877jv36PNRbP6tON5dTtm3ZFd G/+4uoMrNF5CJ6u4xTei1V59vmXH1MYjWaOD5Nqtxdbw/v07bsczsTbyhx5Axb+AatWN+P CmmUOd6F5wJoVyeRDsxAe45RlxgaCUHNPSKcVX/ZhFSC6qCZI6vyaYDisp7pHg== X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.61 X-Spam-Score: -4.61 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B14CD9D08 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=bFi0ceef; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-TUID: GJO2OXGIi9qN Hi, Simon Tournier skribis: > Last, back on December [2], I started to apply some well-known network > algorithm (link analysis, centrality measure, pagerank, etc.) to the > graph of packages. From my point of view, these kind of tools could be > very helpful to spot out the packages that need some specific care. > > Maybe it would fit a project for a student. ;-) Yes, I think we need more work along the lines of what you did! We could also couple the actual graph with data such as individual output size. Ludo=E2=80=99.