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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Scanner: mx0.migadu.com X-Spam-Score: -7.44 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A4B0B62B4B X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -7.44 X-TUID: wi9AmOIy64Iq On 2023-08-16, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > Hi, > > A late reply=E2=80=A6 > > Distopico skribis: > >> 1. Are there plans in the future to improve integration between >> development tools? For example, having haskell-language-server for >> ghc@9.x and another one for ghc@8.x, or something similar to the >> overwrite feature in Nix flake? > > I don=E2=80=99t think the project makes =E2=80=9Cplans=E2=80=9D for such = things. To me, it > looks like mostly a matter of packaging; if =E2=80=98haskell-language-ser= ver=E2=80=99 is > missing, then some Haskeller may eventually feel the need to package it. > You can hope it=E2=80=99ll be someone else, but perhaps you=E2=80=99ll fi= nd that doing > it yourself is worth trying. :-) > > Regarding customization, =E2=80=98--with-input=E2=80=99 and perhaps other= transformation > options may correspond to your needs: > > https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/html_node/Package-Transformation-O= ptions.html > According with the docs, it will make rebuilt the packages so with Rust/haskell that could take time and cpu, and for sure is a good option in many cases, and maybe with Parameterized Packages[1] would be another option, but what about have let said two packages like `haskell-language-server-8.x` and `haskell-language-server-9.x` wherein each one utilizes a predefined GHC version and prebuilt derivations? Is this approach valid? >> 2. Do you see developers as a potential target audience for Guix, or is >> it mainly focused on HPC (High-Performance Computing)? > > My dayjob has to do with HPC and I think Guix is a good fit for them. > > But developers, whether in HPC or not, are definitely a target audience > IMO. I believe Guix has great tools for development; that=E2=80=99s the = spirit > of this blog post: > > https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2023/from-development-environments-to-cont= inuous-integrationthe-ultimate-guide-to-software-development-with-guix/ > > Thanks for your feedback! > > Ludo=E2=80=99. thank you for your response. [1]: https://blog.lispy.tech/parameterized-packages-the-second-update.html