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From: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>
To: Sergey Trofimov <sarg@sarg.org.ru>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Are declarative app configs worth it?
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2023 15:56:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h6k5ko0g.fsf@elephly.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874jg5hvz7.fsf@sarg.org.ru>


Sergey Trofimov <sarg@sarg.org.ru> writes:

> - adding it to guix increases maintenance burden: new versions   could
>  add or remove config options

This is why there should be automated tests.  There are too few of them.

> - it requires documentation/translation, another hidden cost

We should only accept configuration procedures that have proper
documentation, yes.

> - it bloats guix: imagine if we add configs for every
>   user-configurable app

That would be nice.

If we started to accept the term bloat we could easily apply it to
anything in Guix: all that R stuff?  Bloat!  All that bioinfo stuff?
Bloat!

> - such configs are not easily transferrable: if I were to use the
>   same app in non-guix env, I'd have to maintain 2 configs

We are generating configuration files from our config languages.  So you
would only need to generate them and copy them for your non-guix
environment.

> Another recent example is `oci-container-configuration` which defines
> a subset of docker-cli startup arguments. The problem is that `docker
> run` command has 96 options and the configuration only uses a handful,
> lacking a way to provide the remaining ones.

All config bindings need to have an escape hatch.

-- 
Ricardo


  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-26 15:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-26 13:53 Are declarative app configs worth it? Sergey Trofimov
2023-12-26 14:56 ` Ricardo Wurmus [this message]
2023-12-26 15:05   ` John Soo
2023-12-26 15:18   ` Nguyễn Gia Phong via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2023-12-26 16:50     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2023-12-27  1:34       ` Nguyễn Gia Phong via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2023-12-26 15:39   ` Attila Lendvai
2023-12-26 16:49     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2023-12-27  7:38   ` Sergey Trofimov
2023-12-28 14:28     ` Efraim Flashner
2023-12-27  4:15 ` Murad Mamedov

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