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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludovic.courtes@inria.fr>
To: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>,  Nicolas Graves <ngraves@ngraves.fr>
Subject: How to build Rust packages
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2024 11:13:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h67iv3nw.fsf_-_@inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z1FRCoHq6oBdWNbO@3900XT> (Efraim Flashner's message of "Thu, 5 Dec 2024 09:06:50 +0200")

Hello,

Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> skribis:

> I still have a copy of the code on my machine but unfortunately it no
> longer builds due to the constant churn of rust packages.
>
> One thing I remember explicitly about it was that building end packages
> was faster than the current method, and that was before taking into
> account reusing build artifacts.
>
> https://notabug.org/maximed/cargoless-rust-experiments

Neat.

> Another idea which I'm not in love with is what Debian does. They grab
> all of the sources into one build environment and then build everything.
> It simplifies the dependency management of the sources but for us it
> would make it so that we can't touch anything in rust without causing a
> full rebuild of everything.

I believe this is also what Nixpkgs does, as discussed in this thread:

  https://toot.aquilenet.fr/@civodul/113532478383900515

I’m not a fan either.  But I think one of the main criteria here should
be long-term maintainability, which is influenced by internal design
issues and by how we design our relation with the external packaging
tool.

By internal issues I mean things like #:cargo-inputs instead of regular
inputs, which makes the whole thing hard to maintain and causes
friction.  (See <https://issues.guix.gnu.org/53127>.)

As for the relation with Cargo and crates.io, the question is should we
map packages one-to-one?  Is it worth it?  If the answer is yes, do we
have the tools to maintain it in the long run.

Ludo’.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-05 10:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-02 16:44 ‘cargo-build-system’ makes everything slow Ludovic Courtès
2024-12-02 19:24 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-05  7:06   ` Efraim Flashner
2024-12-05 10:13     ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2024-12-08  9:20       ` How to build Rust packages Efraim Flashner
2024-12-08 11:51         ` indieterminacy
2024-12-10  8:15         ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-12-05 11:07     ` ‘cargo-build-system’ makes everything slow Liliana Marie Prikler
2024-12-05  6:32 ` Efraim Flashner

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