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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Scanner: mx11.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -8.76 X-Spam-Score: -8.76 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: CBDD946796 X-TUID: HDt89dEScDhM --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, 45mg <45mg.writes@gmail.com> writes: > [..] > > As I suspected, the issue does not show up until you add additional > channels in your configuration file - in the case of the configuration > below, that means adding the `my-channels` definition and the > `modify-services` form. When you reconfigure after doing that, you > should see it updating the channel repositories as I originally > described. > > [..] > (guix (guix-for-channels my-channels))))))) `guix-for-channels' does not cache the computation, that is a known defect. There are workarounds to make it cache, but they all suck in one way or another. For single-user system, you can just not use it, and access the additional channels from your guix-pulled profile. 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