From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: Re: New year, new name! Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 20:56:05 +0100 Message-ID: <87fvbphui2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87egra60mo.fsf@gnu.org> <20150105192214.GA17219@debian.fritz.box> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50351) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8Dl5-0006Qh-69 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 14:56:12 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8Dl1-0002wo-MQ for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 14:56:11 -0500 Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([2a01:474::1]:56028) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8Dl1-0002wd-GE for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 14:56:07 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20150105192214.GA17219@debian.fritz.box> (Andreas Enge's message of "Mon, 5 Jan 2015 20:22:14 +0100") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Andreas Enge Cc: guix-devel Andreas Enge skribis: > On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 10:09:09AM -0500, Thompson, David wrote: >> I don't like "Guixotic" very much. > > Me neither; it apparently refers to Don Quixote, who is generally conside= red > as a ridiculous person disconnected from the preoccupations of its time. = The > main episode that comes to mind is that of the windmills; I do not think = we > should leave the impression that Guix is fighting a fight that it is bound > to lose, and that moreover is ridiculous from the start. The idea of RMS is that GNU is sometimes described by opponents as quixotic, and that we would make fun of that insult by internalizing it (pretty much like geeks have done with =E2=80=9Cgeek=E2=80=9D.) BTW, I didn=E2=80=99t know this is a relatively common adjective in English; WordNet has this definition: Overview of adj quixotic The adj quixotic has 1 sense (first 1 from tagged texts) 1. (2) quixotic, romantic, wild-eyed -- (not sensible about practical matters; idealistic and unrealistic; "as quixotic as a restoration of medieval knighthood"; "a romantic disregard for money"; "a wild-eyed dream of a world state") With that definition in mind, it=E2=80=99s clear IMO that =E2=80=9CGuixotic= =E2=80=9D is ironic. > If there needs to be a separate name, I think we should spend more time > searching for a better one. Honestly, I think the discussion must end, because it=E2=80=99s becoming to= xic. Again, the idea is that it will not change much beyond the name of the USB installation tarballs and a bunch of references in the manual. The goal is to be viewed as =E2=80=9CGNU=E2=80=99s reference distro.=E2=80=9D Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.