From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Mark H Weaver Subject: Re: let's talk about SLIM Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2017 05:40:21 -0400 Message-ID: <87fuc54ewq.fsf@netris.org> References: <20170826213253.qxyveyztlhao22bu@abyayala> <87pobgkc39.fsf@netris.org> <87inh577xs.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56531) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1do4v8-0006xg-BP for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2017 05:40:59 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1do4v3-0002E8-IP for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2017 05:40:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87inh577xs.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Wed, 30 Aug 2017 10:53:35 +0200") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes: > Mark H Weaver skribis: > >> ng0 writes: >> >>> It seems to me as if SLIM can be dropped once we >>> have something else in place. Would you agree? >> >> It would be good to keep a display manager service that is lightweight >> in terms of both resource usage, runtime-dependency closure, and >> build-dependency closure. I'm not attached to SLiM, but I would not >> consider the existence of a GDM service to be sufficient grounds for >> removal of SLiM. >> >> Apart from the needs of those on older hardware, or those who wish to >> build everything locally from source code, I'm not sure if we've ever >> successfully built GDM on a non-Intel system. GDM depends on mozjs-17, >> which I've never managed to build on mips64el-linux, and it fails on >> armhf-linux too. Fixing mozjs on mips64el-linux is probably not >> trivial, and yet I'm happily using SLiM on my Yeeloong, which is still >> the only non-Intel GuixSD system as far as I know. > > I agree we should not remove SLiM. I think the question is more about > the default we want to have. > > For people using %desktop-services with GNOME and all that, it probably > makes sense to default to GDM. I agree that GDM is a better choice for most users, and should be the default. I ask only that we retain a lightweight and portable display manager service as an alternative. Thanks, Mark