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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A registry for distributed sources and binaries
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 11:21:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87eg6iqdi0.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wpka7p0g.fsf@elephly.net> (Ricardo Wurmus's message of "Sun, 24 Jul 2016 22:35:43 +0200")

Hello,

Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> skribis:

> Currently, GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH depends on some manual work to be done
> first.  Finding a third-party repository, downloading it, updating it
> separately from Guix itself (it won’t get updated via “guix pull”),
> setting the variable.
>
> When binary substitutes are involved some more steps are required: find
> and download the public key of the distributor (who might be running
> hydra or something like “guix publish”) and authorise it.
>
> Taken together it may seem a little too cumbersome compared to what
> other package managers do.  To enable a third-party repository for
> Ubuntu, for example, I only need to run one command.  When downloading
> packages I may also need to verify and accept a GPG key.

That’s a two-step process (or one-step if there are no binaries).

Honestly, I don’t find it intimidating (definitely not a showstopper),
but I agree it’s even better if it can be simplified.

> Could it be enough if Guix offered a simpler way to fetch package
> definitions and (optionally) binary substitutes from a third party who
> maintains both the package definitions and (optionally) distributes
> pre-built binary substitutes?
>
> Here are some concrete proposals:
>
> * Add a “guix config” command, which allows users to modify the
>   behaviour of their instance of Guix.
>
> * Support adding repositories via “guix config”.  A “repository” is a
>   remote set of Guile modules and (optionally) an public endpoint of
>   “guix publish” through which substitutes of only those packages that
>   are defined in the repository’s modules can be downloaded.
>
> * The first time a repository is accessed, the specified modules are
>   cloned and stored in a per-user state directory
>   (“~/.cache/guix/<domain>” maybe?).  Guix is automatically configured
>   to use the modules from “~/.cache/guix/<domain>” in addition to what
>   is on GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH.  Additionally, the distribution public key
>   for binary substitutes is fetched from a well-known location (if
>   applicable) and users are asked to confirm.
>
> * When a user runs “guix pull” all enabled repositories are also
>   updated.  Otherwise the cached copy from last access is used.
>
> * Update “guix --version” to also return the version of each configured
>   repository.
>
> * Add a command line switch “--vanilla” (or similar) to disable any
>   custom configuration and any configured repositories.

I like the idea!  (With the caveat that, again, external repos can break
anytime.)

Partly related to that:
<http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=22629>.

Ludo’.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-07-25  9:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-21  1:39 (unknown) Unknown, Pjotr Prins
2016-07-21  1:42 ` [PATCH] gnu: Add elixir Pjotr Prins
2016-07-21 11:43   ` Ben Woodcroft
2016-07-21 12:00     ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-22  5:26     ` Leo Famulari
2016-07-22 12:55       ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-22 14:12         ` Leo Famulari
2016-07-21 12:51 ` none Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-22  0:41   ` none Pjotr Prins
2016-07-22  2:06     ` none Pjotr Prins
2016-07-22  3:25       ` none Jookia
2016-07-22  3:48       ` none Leo Famulari
2016-07-22  4:48       ` none Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2016-07-22 11:07         ` none Pjotr Prins
2016-07-22 12:23           ` none Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-22 12:50             ` none Jookia
2016-07-22 21:19               ` none Leo Famulari
2016-07-24  4:17                 ` none Jookia
2016-07-24  6:35                   ` none Leo Famulari
2016-07-24  7:47                     ` none Jookia
2016-07-24 16:52               ` none Christopher Allan Webber
2016-07-24 17:03                 ` none Andreas Enge
2016-07-22  8:15     ` none Roel Janssen
2016-07-22 14:07       ` none Leo Famulari
2016-07-22 14:15         ` none Vincent Legoll
2016-07-22 16:13       ` none Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-22 16:38         ` none myglc2
2016-07-23  7:03           ` none Tomáš Čech
2016-07-22 16:02     ` Review process Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-23  2:24       ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-23  9:05         ` Alex Kost
2016-07-23  9:51           ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-07-24  8:02             ` Alex Kost
2016-07-24 10:38               ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-07-24 14:09               ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-24  3:30       ` A registry for distributed sources and binaries Pjotr Prins
2016-07-24  5:10         ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2016-07-24  5:16           ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-24  5:24         ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-24  5:29         ` Mark H Weaver
2016-07-24  5:48           ` Jookia
2016-07-24  6:37             ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2016-07-24  7:49               ` Jookia
2016-07-24 20:02             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-24  6:28           ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2016-07-24  7:02             ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-24  7:29           ` Leo Famulari
2016-07-24  7:41             ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-24  9:50           ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-07-24 22:46           ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-24 13:58         ` Andreas Enge
2016-07-24 15:21           ` Jookia
2016-07-24 15:58             ` Andreas Enge
2016-07-24 17:18             ` replying to a message of a mailing list you were not subscribed to Danny Milosavljevic
2016-07-24 17:25               ` Danny Milosavljevic
2016-07-25  5:38                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-25  7:34                   ` icecat "mailto" handler does not work - and cannot be reconfigured by user Danny Milosavljevic
2020-10-13 13:23                     ` bug#24066: " Maxim Cournoyer
2016-07-24 18:50             ` A registry for distributed sources and binaries John Darrington
2016-07-25  9:14             ` Replying to bug reports Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-25  8:25           ` A registry for distributed sources and binaries Andy Wingo
2016-07-25 22:00             ` Reviewer assignment Ludovic Courtès
2016-07-24 20:35         ` A registry for distributed sources and binaries Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-25  2:10           ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-25  3:42             ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2016-07-25  4:57               ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-25  7:18           ` Tomáš Čech
2016-07-25  9:21           ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2016-07-26  3:40             ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-26  3:45               ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-25  6:13 ` [PATCH] Add Elixir (was: ) Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-25  6:31   ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-28  7:27     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-28  8:30       ` Vincent Legoll
2016-07-28 10:35       ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-28 20:35         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-07-29  2:38           ` Pjotr Prins
2016-07-29  6:32             ` Vincent Legoll
2016-08-02  8:56             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-02 14:30               ` Pjotr Prins
2016-08-02  8:44     ` [PATCH] Add Elixir Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-02 14:29       ` Pjotr Prins
2016-08-02 17:26       ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-08-02 21:25         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-08-03  4:41           ` Pjotr Prins
2016-08-09 11:18           ` Pjotr Prins
2016-08-09 11:58             ` Alex Sassmannshausen

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