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From: Alex Kost <alezost@gmail.com>
To: Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Should guix-emacs-autoload-packages use GUIX_ENVIRONMENT?
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 00:12:28 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87eft6j1s3.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zibwlymy.fsf@kyleam.com> (Kyle Meyer's message of "Sat, 22 Jul 2017 21:39:49 -0400")

Kyle Meyer (2017-07-22 21:39 -0400) wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I noticed that Emacs packages from the user's profile leak into guix
> environment calls.

As for me, this is a natural behaviour.  If you want to be safe from any
external packages, site settings, etc., run "emacs -Q".

> For example, when I run
>
>     $ guix environment --pure --ad-hoc emacs -- emacs -q
>
> load-path contains the Emacs packages from my main profile.

Right, but "-q" is not enough here.  If you don't want these packages to
be autoloaded, you need to run emacs with "-Q" or "--no-site-file".

> I expected it to use GUIX_ENVIRONMENT instead (something like the patch
> below, I think).

I wouldn't expect "instead", I would expect "along with".

> Does guix-emacs-autoload-packages ignore GUIX_ENVIRONMENT by design?

No, I think it's just that no one thought about this possibility before (I
mean a possibility to use emacs packages from "guix environment").

> I suppose one downside of honoring GUIX_ENVIRONMENT is that, if the --pure
> flag isn't passed and the package arguments aren't Emacs-related, a user
> may be surprised that their Emacs packages are no longer available in
> newly created Emacs instances.

I'm not sure.  I think if you run "emacs -q", you really want "emacs -Q".
Otherwise, if you start emacs normally, you probably don't want to ignore
emacs packages from your guix profile.

However, I agree that GUIX_ENVIRONMENT should be honored, but as I wrote
*not instead* but *along with* the default profiles.  So if you start
emacs like this:

  guix environment --ad-hoc emacs emacs-wget -- emacs

it should contain emacs-wget in its load-path.  WDYT?

-- 
Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-23 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-23  1:39 Should guix-emacs-autoload-packages use GUIX_ENVIRONMENT? Kyle Meyer
2017-07-23 21:12 ` Alex Kost [this message]
2017-07-23 22:29   ` Kyle Meyer
2017-07-24 21:19     ` Alex Kost
2017-07-24 22:25       ` Kyle Meyer
2017-07-25 21:33         ` Marius Bakke
2017-07-26  1:40           ` Kyle Meyer
2017-07-26 20:02             ` Alex Kost
2017-07-27 11:38               ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-07-26 20:06         ` Alex Kost
2017-07-27  5:04           ` Kyle Meyer

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