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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1621685405; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=OIX8VHxpjspsJuyLY9M3VQZmTOXKnq1bgbr6mcD/J70=; b=hAHqTGOVCjghd2UN71XfX5KPL2qhHMZz74Oi5wfSBOxumHgsIocvz0lV8IZX4z0sFMro/W Gmxr63G1UKH42SMHTjuTqth0vdv/HuHp+GotCjpfmsTAXO8pY8z5UTKrUOvJZbUCzR8naG viOTMBWLEGdUSN1WRK5W6Y2xRG4akC+Bq6hHXThtIJZilRZfQ/vC8tICmkalxyS+b7OYpo DxPR/af6jJt7XOur8UvrMlMxup0gPGFCbZL8Dsuy7lr78y3Fdr5dAz50eWTYzRPcl+Ke2a 9IXEhmTCYWN0H5Ow2ZlG0w8ynR/IAUePtAFmE+m3hwh4GB8YC3g0/zSn+fKgWw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1621685405; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=NTmgvZcLMien29GDkZIvji3ydMe77oB7Scv0QBOBRbV+5jFDALjOwBMQqbJVrtYtmCoIWV 1mKse9pb71LZ6cjcfJ8bEBfbv1NaokQt8b2jF3tWbkZhKvICKo4fsOB9srpYgbsjWjTXoN nLkJfzLUC7EfPOiPAA9Bj0dDeQZQrRlTxS/9tcCGMEArUKC1LOcmwoV8G2VCt3+MtxK+HS lUAhPk0NXjv2G89saEv2tI1skguHFb/Tf/rt2kTUr2/HY5yBfTZXhS49pYTd/zVvp9v66I 9Yj4tGyzcx0PzIbZ8e7HIAwK53ptG7RfizWT2i8LNl0cGLKS/GEtpGV5amAvrg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=disroot.org header.s=mail header.b=WKU1GPpc; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=disroot.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.63 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=disroot.org header.s=mail header.b=WKU1GPpc; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=disroot.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 5867921B84 X-Spam-Score: -2.63 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: bF82jnfOBXBW Fran=C3=A7ois writes: >> # IRC alternatives / compliments > > On alternatives you missed Matrix[1] which is federated (like email) > and have several clients includig weechat for text-based interface. > > Several people (and I am one of them) already uses Matrix clients to > access IRC networks with bridges (which libera.chat does not already > have but work is in progress). > > There is even some ongoing work ([2], [3]) on making Matrix more > peer-to-peer but it is still completely experimental. > > > [1]: https://matrix.org > [2]: https://matrix.org/blog/2021/05/06/introducing-the-pinecone-overlay-= network > [3]: https://matrix.org/blog/2020/06/02/introducing-p-2-p-matrix ## Matrix * Free libre - yes * Peer to peer - no yet, currently federated servers ** ** * Non graphical client - yes ** ** ** ** * IRC capabilities - yes * Emacs client - yes **