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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1641483886; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=AzNFmHJKhhYxV+yAhAZCTGVvBNtmM6jjw+J6UWFJYN0=; b=kVt7aQ4TPfPYNbVCxWLRRIOUbua4G/hWx9+N/PbSZw0o4Els82ZvJRE/Y5/3CpUV5+tkMf JMmzslES5IevN2GPt4pLQ+gTONRF12eDZLADF0+pQzzsrVoC7YMJ7si7X43GSDPDllAlAp uIOU1wicGaVN1ZCUhQuOVFKy/Br414dRCYhyUKGh1fo+FQMgmGPjHakVNHePPMCYpZ7Nw+ /Aw/p57tl1Ch8fG2zcW37T8Vy5p7Bp2euw6CGL5UmoTEvToO52VeDOmm3lRZ6linWhyTIP B3UGLvYJ0PC8qOXXiqpDDPn6VFHIhI+6YoUeaCVYaWaAA7tCSb6C6y17xH/bSw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1641483886; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=R8i8dbYqAiQIxMhdzdOUKt/67iBqXsPS7LDP0QSiIhEqaNPHBBBaAVFAtoysV4TtEjsyaU UAzPIQAeawoqlOtYMwImc8BHocCiZgltmmhvbUNY1UCZEVujL3tjsiLbg38Qrdxd1Fszmo 5GGGZjS11WH3uZ19tfRiGH9TjDPa0Lnq4oqziFkSNivGQcLi2w+kOCMTPJUyUxx1cSKXpq Sb5PZ2yR85N4osNRAXsJiN2OwdwjSJ0D6NCeUSd2DLZzDvRXQ5NqHbDciuckLYhZLJNioE MuJKsgPFeI3XfhXrZObWNsc38v3Wjc1+kqNgqURoSPSjSJhnm2T8fMlX9APoaw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=OoLZoMNO; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.50 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=OoLZoMNO; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: DD7B32B1C9 X-Spam-Score: -2.50 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: raH3f8sWm3P6 jgart writes: > On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 00:27:04 +0100 raingloom wrote: >> TLDR how much of the effort spent on this channel is really justified >> compared to making the underserved use-cases easier in upstream Guix? I also have my own personal "upstream staging" channel so that I can continue contributing to Guix at my own pace, in my own way, until I can get enough velocity to really internalize contributing in the way Guix would like me to. I also tend to hack on things there, and then batch my changes for upstream so that I can keep everything consistent and make sure all my code meets upstream standards. In the meantime, I'm able to actually use the code. My only concern with organizing this activity into a group is that it is a kind of "community fork". I hope we can take the reasons people make these channels and bring them back to Guix proper to make contributing here just as easy. At any rate, any energy put into the ecosystem is good in my book. Cheers! :) -- Katherine