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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.64 X-Spam-Score: -6.64 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 2E8566C6C6 X-TUID: QsR9beOXrDj3 Hi, On lun., 18 mars 2024 at 12:38, Ian Eure wrote: > They appear to be violating free software licenses on large scale.=20 > They are in violation of SWH=E2=80=99s own positions. [...] > [1]: https://arxiv.org/html/2402.19173v1 > [2]:=20 > https://huggingface.co/spaces/HuggingFaceH4/starchat2-playground > [3]: https://huggingface.co/datasets/bigcode/the-stack-v2 > [4]: https://github.com/bigcode-project/opt-out-v2/issues Please note that Software Heritage folks are not co-author of all that; or I misread. Do not take me wrong, this is not an attempt to escape but a query for waiting the feedback of SWH. As Ludo said, SWH folks are, by the way, also long time Free Software activists. For the record, the quality of 10 Years of Guix [1] videos is the result of tireless work (for free!) by a Debian video team member (also working for SWH) and one of SWH co-founder had been Debian project leader. Let the benefit of the doubt while waiting. 1: https://10years.guix.gnu.org Cheers, simon PS: Thanks for the detailed explanations. I will provide my reading later, after some concerns will be separated, eventually.