From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Christopher Lemmer Webber Subject: Re: my latest blog post Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2018 08:51:05 -0500 Message-ID: <87d0x0hxva.fsf@dustycloud.org> References: <877enaimsn.fsf@fastmail.com> <87po11j46q.fsf@dustycloud.org> <87k1r91hkp.fsf@elephly.net> <877en8171p.fsf@elephly.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54758) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fReGt-0003b0-4m for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2018 09:51:12 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fReGp-0005Uo-7T for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2018 09:51:11 -0400 Received: from dustycloud.org ([50.116.34.160]:33910) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fReGp-0005Ua-2s for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2018 09:51:07 -0400 In-reply-to: <877en8171p.fsf@elephly.net> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Ricardo Wurmus Cc: guix-devel , Joshua Branson Ricardo Wurmus writes: > Catonano writes: > > I wrote this: > > But please do not demand of others to explain everything in detail. > (I=E2=80=99m directing this at everyone who heeds my advice to go to > guile-devel, not at any one person in particular.) > > Rephrasing: I=E2=80=99d like to point this out to people who take this > opportunity to bemoan the lack of other features or who disagree with > what they think are different priorities. You do not feel addressed if > you know you=E2=80=99ve made efforts in this area. > >> And saying I should come on guile-dev and actually provide what I thin= is >> useful, nowing that I can't (not immediately is not a fair answer eith= er >> >> Because it's equivalent to a "fuck you" I think at a moment like this it's important to step back a moment... Wikipedia has a good philosophy here called "Assume Good Faith": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith Making Guile into a friendlier environment for newcomers is important. But if we are to have a friendly environment, the only way that can happen is if we believe that in general we have a culture of collaboration. That doesn't mean we don't hold people accountable if they are clearly demonstrating disrespectful or hostile behavior. But there's no way to have a collaborative environment if we don't try to give people the benefit of the doubt that they wish to work together to improve things.