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From: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
To: Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, Benjamin Slade <beoram@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Guix on aarch64
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 15:22:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d0u2guub.fsf@netris.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180828190909.GA11946@jasmine.lan> (Leo Famulari's message of "Tue, 28 Aug 2018 15:09:09 -0400")

Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> writes:

> On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 09:57:49AM +0200, Ricardo Wurmus wrote:
>> I commented specifically on Leo’s statement about build debugging on
>> Cuirass:
>> 
>>     “I don't actually do any build debugging with Berlin yet because I
>>      don't know how to use the interface effectively.”
>> 
>> This did not sound like a severe problem with Cuirass to me, but rather
>> a problem that could be fixed by adding minor features to Cuirass like
>> the display of build logs.  Leo, could you please tell us what missing
>> feature in the Cuirass web interface is the most urgent for you to use
>> the interface effectively?
>
> My apologies in advance if these features already exist in the Cuirass
> web interface! I didn't find them yet.
>
> I mostly use Hydra for two things:
>
> 1) I use it to manage large branch re-builds (e.g. core-updates) by
> looking at the lists of failed builds for the lastest evaluation of that
> particular "jobset" (i.e. Git branch).
>
> Hydra gives a list of tabs like this that are helpful:
>
> Aborted jobs (2)
> Newly failing jobs (2)
> Newly succeeding jobs (1)
> New jobs (29)
> Removed jobs (23)
> Still failing jobs (2425)
> Still succeeding jobs (20470)
> Queued jobs (675)
> Inputs
>
> I might also compare the evaluation to another evaluation of the same
> jobset, or against another jobset (usually master).
>
> The concept of "dependency failures" and their reporting is also really
> helpful (i.e "foo was not built because its dependency bar failed").

Right, these are all indispensible tools.

> Also, I use the Hydra web interface to start jobset evaluations and
> restart particular package builds, and to restart all builds that were
> skipped due to dependency failures.

These are too, although "restart all dependency failures", which I
hastily added, is too crude of a tool in my opinion.  I've since cooked
up a PostgreSQL transaction which does something better: restart all
dependency failures that were caused by a particular failed derivation.
That should be what we aim for in Cuirass, I think.

> 2) Checking build logs of a particular package to see if a failure or
> success is reproducible on the build farm.

Yes, this too.

       Mark

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-28 19:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <878t565k85.fsf@lassieur.org>
     [not found]   ` <87k1oq6wgf.fsf@jnanam.net>
2018-08-23  4:58     ` Guix on aarch64 Mark H Weaver
2018-08-23 16:09       ` Benjamin Slade
2018-08-24 10:32       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-24 19:18         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-08-26 16:13         ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-26 18:59           ` Leo Famulari
2018-08-27  8:04             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-08-27 18:54               ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-27 19:11               ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-27 19:26                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-08-27 21:05                   ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-27 21:56                     ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-28  5:39                     ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-28  7:57                     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-08-28 10:00                       ` Andreas Enge
2018-08-28 15:40                         ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-28 19:09                       ` Leo Famulari
2018-08-28 19:22                         ` Mark H Weaver [this message]
2018-08-27 19:50               ` Leo Famulari
2018-08-27 20:37                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-08-29 20:52               ` Joshua Branson
2018-08-30 20:47                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-08-30  9:49           ` Ludovic Courtès

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