From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id JmkFMshiCWB1VAAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 11:17:28 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id oJWmLchiCWAGDgAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 11:17:28 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B57B9404E4 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 11:17:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:34234 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l2Xxv-0003IM-6S for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 06:17:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48110) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l2XqB-0001Uc-K9 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 06:09:27 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40288) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l2Xq8-0007nP-7i; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 06:09:24 -0500 Received: from [2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465] (port=47502 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1l2Xq7-0004Gq-K2; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 06:09:23 -0500 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: jeremiah@pdp10.guru Subject: Re: [bootstrappable] Re: wip-full-source-bootstrap: from a 357-byte `hex0' to 'hello' References: <8735z3c7m1.fsf@ITSx01.pdp10.guru> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 2 =?utf-8?Q?Pluvi=C3=B4se?= an 229 de la =?utf-8?Q?R?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 12:09:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: <8735z3c7m1.fsf@ITSx01.pdp10.guru> (jeremiah@pdp10.guru's message of "Fri, 15 Jan 2021 01:27:18 +0000") Message-ID: <87czxybl7h.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, andrius@stikonas.eu, bootstrappable@freelists.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.85 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 7B57B9404E4 X-Spam-Score: -2.85 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: uRCblA5DdVMv Hi, jeremiah@pdp10.guru skribis: > 3) not actually converge the code and simply throw one or both of them > away. Say write the whole thing in a better language than C (haskell > perhaps but ultimately requires abandoning previous work). I see a fourth option, which is to keep both. :-) In effect, it seems there are now two diverging projects. I think that=E2=80=99s fine: more bootstrapping work and more diversity is better! For Guix, the Scheme-based approach Janneke et al. have been pursing remains the most attractive. At any rate, work on Haskell will probably benefit Guix (and other distros I guess!) to have a fully built-from-source Haskell platform. Thanks for explaining, Ludo=E2=80=99.