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[66.158.148.165]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n94sm5944630qtd.28.2021.01.29.08.02.19 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 29 Jan 2021 08:02:19 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Cournoyer To: zimoun Subject: Re: Python 2 EOL starts to break packages References: <86pn1pgf7z.fsf@gmail.com> <87pn1oxv0m.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 11:02:18 -0500 In-Reply-To: (zimoun's message of "Fri, 29 Jan 2021 11:02:09 +0100") Message-ID: <87czxnybn9.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::732; envelope-from=maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com; helo=mail-qk1-x732.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.05 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=KHBYrof0; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 9447D9402B3 X-Spam-Score: -3.05 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: nxYgqyS7xU6k Hi, zimoun writes: > HI Maxim, > > Thanks for your answer. > [...] > In other words, should 3142daccbe be reverted? Or should 3142daccbe > keep as it is and the variant 'python2-setuptools' defined explicitly > with the previous version? I wouldn't revert; Python 2 should not hold anyone from keeping packages up to date. > Noting that people submitting and reviewing patches should both apply > your methodology. Otherwise, the janitor work is more burden. > Contrary to what I am proposing, i.e., move all the python2-* variants > inside a specific module, where the janitor work can be done > asynchronously: open this module and address package one after the > other, mainly once a while by batch. Instead of greping, etc. I can > tell you by janitoring Bioconductor packages that grepping becomes > really annoying when you address more packages than a child is able to > count. ;-) > > In other words, I am proposing to separate update and janitor with an > easier janitor task. > > Well, all are fine with me. The aim of my email is simply to roughly > agree on a "way" to collectively ease this boring task. My opinion is that moving packages about to be removed is not worth the hassle. Most Python 2 packages are already in a single module: the gigantic python-xyz.scm ;-) >> The python2-behave-web-api is not a concern (there's an existing >> python-behave-web-api package), but the others are. There's an issue >> about syncthing-gtk reliance on Python 2 at >> https://github.com/kozec/syncthing-gtk/issues/568. For grocsvs I've >> just commented at https://github.com/grocsvs/grocsvs/issues/6. If the >> upstream are not willing to budge, the packages can be removed after a >> grace period (6 months, I'd say). > > Just to fix the idea, the last release of syncthing-gtk is from 4 Aug > 2019 and the last commit in master from 30 Oct 2019. The issue you > mention is from 30 Nov 2020 but the real first one is #487 [1] from 22 > Oct 2018 and mentioning a port to Python 3 by Debian folks [2] (not > tried the status). Hum, the 6 months grace period is far beyond. ;-) > (I am not asking any remove.) I just committed a series of python2-* package removal, along with using this port for our syncthing-gtk package. It now builds, at least! See commit de8dc9039b. > And I guess your are Apteryks that asked to reopen the issue of grocsvs. :-) > Well, since this package is Bioinformatics, I can tell you that it > will not be ported, another story. > However, this Python 2 package had been added in Guix on 2020-05-05, > i.e., post Python 2 EOL. I think it is a "mistake" and instead should > live in the channel "guix-past", but at the time, this channel did not > exist, if I remember correctly. Fair enough. Removed in 23a5dcce1d. Thanks! Maxim