From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id 4NxBGmonxWAo5gAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 23:30:18 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id cNOwFWonxWDdHgAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 21:30:18 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21C19AFF3 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 23:30:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:58638 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lsBCr-0006WT-2H for larch@yhetil.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:30:17 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34854) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lsBCe-0006Vt-D5 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:30:04 -0400 Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([178.21.23.139]:42434) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lsBCb-0005da-BV for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:30:03 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by disroot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C4D5BE8C; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 23:29:59 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at disroot.org Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (disroot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HRmHptE80KIE; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 23:29:58 +0200 (CEST) References: <87fsxm7s69.fsf@disroot.org> <87eed695yb.fsf@nckx> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=disroot.org; s=mail; t=1623533398; bh=joFRp5NF57i69shN173tunZlzt+3l6D9FZkYNP+UY1E=; h=References:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-reply-to:Date; b=RcAyV15bFBCptnYXxUvoio+Ml/QJdv6oKcbAoQHHr/HRsMkB9QyLX5BWbTuvKr18x Mtp7nwclKsSKYgn09kj0SPwHcCrfozAQqy0SbBSZHZlu1qcTKYNIn4af4iqbsvDLOQ Bme+K7IlbIlcxlGo5fEWQUH5mFgCFHJUzlKxgx7IYXqSUFBEY+a+0Nf2lNcwEEewPk nvAj2qXGT8rfy/0huVp6uZxVQnlik23I2J9n42lqvNfOF5VFyxAgOo+48/7PfhoQlp nMnr+29yscdPJIBX1/AvnEigMx2jLcjfKnbDAZsRCngBVu1KkUZDW3L6DX7Ll1zsnl itipUKisM1Ypg== From: Bone Baboon To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: Telemetry on by default kitty In-reply-to: <87eed695yb.fsf@nckx> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:28:02 -0400 Message-ID: <87czsq7oyl.fsf@disroot.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=178.21.23.139; envelope-from=bone.baboon@disroot.org; helo=knopi.disroot.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1623533418; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=43kmD/0BHVlV0ItWgc3XxmrISAykQVysDG/7kG+VZ/M=; b=QRJIsRTlxvOYgxK5nyLkMISXV6gDXNYdBPBElNY56w5LcA3J1RqNlqbl5w+G49gDtMrGR5 CArtuebBZGpREyZ33R7QeHNyM6SaV4D44B06YcE+crPacCnbli5k4cU+6v6GtLjbZ4pAkp vbVA7TY598xlhk/2In2Ie/D3S2BXetfFEDwAUv+Kqo7Ep7DAhFgZ2PHssIl6ADjOlE0Jvv jLRYRuY0rOBwKUOeospdgK/dGTp8ogHsj6HxYAdfCzpv410N3wsOCmlg9js8sPARMZjxWK iTzQqwFL0eKUlP7uf7D68FIn8i7ojuggngMcOA4Zo/4aOcVPbKpXC8e7/W9TTg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1623533418; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=lg4mNi9fluRXiUBYjkmInLmMFTR3+xA1HXi33/gjPzwqQ9dKLqVT7X+VGcGn4K8csWVT7f AaSP7KGflcuE9Ao4jX1pwb1l8OdFcGKA6nn6EjY0STQABvebi6CI9J8kKcKSdPoesAZymk tcFJmFxZe9PJcqnT4amMgPQc4+ltajyJgr/Z6WNBSb1wIkQ4rZKniy0rlHeCEi0vlxmXL6 Dz1KKeDoRcWifzB9UXaOg+sbwVrfwOgkB6qXOspP8AUaIqU1Ovz7hmr9lMJpaCNcmFqA94 zKtwZLCKuAqMMKyX+l8uRFvaXpizDIQHLcE/jwomikIbq6//zkDFVgWMJBkYQA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=disroot.org header.s=mail header.b=RcAyV15b; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=disroot.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.13 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=disroot.org header.s=mail header.b=RcAyV15b; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=disroot.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 21C19AFF3 X-Spam-Score: -1.13 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: ylzBfI1Ynpdr Tobias Geerinckx-Rice writes: > Bone Baboon =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A >> What do other people think about this in the context of the Free >> System >> Distribution Guidelines? > > This is not a point of discussion. Telemetry or =E2=80=98phoning home=E2= =80=99 for > updates must be opt-in if possible or disabled entirely otherwise. The telemetry is not opt-in or disabled upstream. > Would you care to submit a patch? Should the patch be to remove the kitty package?