From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id 8P09BpEqc2EdRgAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 23:18:09 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id iFXpAZEqc2FMZQAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 21:18:09 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A505D441 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 23:18:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:33020 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1me1vT-0005jz-Kg for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 17:18:07 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37372) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1me1v1-0005jl-HA for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 17:17:39 -0400 Received: from cascadia.aikidev.net ([2600:3c01:e000:267:0:a171:de7:c]:59618) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1me1v0-0000dg-0y for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 17:17:39 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:21:21:21:0:100b]) (Authenticated sender: vagrant@cascadia.debian.net) by cascadia.aikidev.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BAC911AA2C; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 14:17:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Vagrant Cascadian To: 34717@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#34717: GPL and Openssl incompatibilities in u-boot and possibly others In-Reply-To: <87y26loa74.fsf@yucca> References: <87tvgkiurn.fsf@ponder> <87zhq8f2zz.fsf@gnu.org> <87ftrzuxmh.fsf@ponder> <87o96m8f09.fsf@ponder> <871s3his1i.fsf@gnu.org> <87y26loa74.fsf@yucca> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 14:17:33 -0700 Message-ID: <87cznwoj2q.fsf@yucca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: none client-ip=2600:3c01:e000:267:0:a171:de7:c; envelope-from=vagrant@debian.org; helo=cascadia.aikidev.net X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1634937488; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=ZTbavZgcTAh0UxX0lOFQB3YMlMWG5Ik+Y1AXhe9Ye/c=; b=DUAX95WtqZ/OsNmvCbU4hOhfQPv6F2FQiFS4BJqZRrWwKrypbpoiKD8/8Tq9P+gLoZZ9zV 0LkgVyZvM/rPCqXVEBnmKZSP5Bqc4byMuT8Pizc1mpTK+XtmkloOnH7zRX6u26D1R0QN0P HxuPs28L7aCSR5+hT1eAyaBA8RnRdcHEu2jJwZvDO4o+Lm+YNW88aBE/UxXyAYPln9QoTB IoR/XV+IQmHWeM7u6Xp1+fgPQ+0BIdvsAxB/POwy1fvGQvbsYOM1rxt2iB9ue/2v6vcDgY LajoMdODCVkwP++6nYjOjJjwq/HnBooQb8uBAc6DaLXHIqz4zUGUazBQNlFNHQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1634937488; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=bsvg970YFzAJxi74a3ihu1F89BpxLX1YEli4rhcjFuC2baETuDnuAMvqmtam3Q7O054L0I +fmHJMSjfAc932xetrqHE5AT92IK7Ef3wK0riyyAnzyaqbtnCN+IVaZZE+/F+ULYZpScPR QUscFHx52EBz0UEPiJzlPqJiaVpc6OtZMYSqT8bhdZR1UosN5p6RGwlwimahYWelY7idUE zMn8P1Gb0A/ZsaWVKEFhLMpexk5MnRdnt8zJv4miOgqes/2Ed3r+wAECibVYkQU4zG9PmR HYRrTMbW7mCnejNcBVwYkDVLofELIe0i0Xzxjdi8zvA49rR7YJ8ItylTSDCdvQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.53 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 8A505D441 X-Spam-Score: -2.53 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: jDVk6SHixXVB --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain On 2021-10-21, Vagrant Cascadian wrote: > For the last couple years guix has been applying simple workarounds in > u-boot packages to disable the features that required openssl due to > GPL/openssl license incompatibilities. > > I made an attempt at updating guix to u-boot 2021.10, which seems to > have made openssl harder to workaround... many of the u-boot-BOARD > packages now require it, and the previous workarounds to disable openssl > in u-boot-tools seem ineffective. > > I see a few ways forward: > > * Dig deeper into figuring out how to disable the workarounds... > > * Refactor the code that uses openssl to use an alternate > implementation. Upstream would welcome the fixes, at least in > theory. Most promising candidate might be wolfssl, last I looked, but > it may miss some features. > > * Convince upstream u-boot to relicense relevent GPLed portions of code > with an openssl exception. Upstream is dubious about this being > practical, largely due to the sheer number of potential contributors > who would have to agree to it. * Disable substitutes for relevent packages. Technically correct as license incompatibility is only triggered on transmission of binary, though maybe missing something about the spirit of the GPL. live well, vagrant --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEARYKAB0WIQRlgHNhO/zFx+LkXUXcUY/If5cWqgUCYXMqbgAKCRDcUY/If5cW qiKaAQCTLWxn3fODFSj+gOHuQj7N6Wil2ZgQJc66DZVDdZMeNgEA8ik5/Qy0+9ve vxdJc9+IuMgQNxa8gkzTnNuZUsGNOA0= =Npsj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--