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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1688327562; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=e+0J7s2ZxfOwEj703m8Akx7Zjj/9mULJ2sCID5LUucs=; b=EhulopFhNPS6UcRm30HGRBJOJKmEpij/W81ghWKkyO/h3NfpIXTdHpDGUtQ6NxHvG+QIir 2lNMtag7ZJArdnAfxKoZnafkQvEL7BQmks841Cv7zcVLKqJkSqP+xtZZt63jmlilvrc1M0 v2umoo4XzXt+3uXXJeDUffAUOPGCUL1NLfGgkyyaTGlfl4OcJPu8bsqh4TRNJwTm3OcUun cozi5wo0idxEubDD0ovfsIGeo64wTe/YrniOfVFPhVr60We+PODMzRieKLWJihcDkz2XrJ u/L4WlcxndMIArrdgOTZkiamRFhvi/dSfj1um04x0JzvGQKjOjY/6Ch1l2o7zA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=OcmNjSaZ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1688327562; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=CuqZ8N7u/z2QLkJ3gcnmP0Pf6zuWdxeMlVcx1pN8Do3MW0EXvGVLFGMzCXMK1mUD/LMH/c nQ5IdDoD0WaHEYujaQaHkz61Wbzez1Xfjd/JhkWUd925tY2VbOmU/7TYA3E+MJzeAkHQ59 8moGHJqjZTcAHNNIxuMVJFJfBanZbfSkSnmuU1wXkxZJHsCCKFwUhYVfvlTwUDc6fErZ4i hal2gzErJ8aO8zVR9UT9VQ8FNZ27lqCf9Fp76TaGITYYjlWuzD7ekjX6ERGFY+98SK0sYP kme9H/XrNo+0aaovIARct7bIjeVRW9asDJAoeZVeL2F6dPLTl5vR0D9dmYd/zA== X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 0.76 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=OcmNjSaZ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 7D1DD8AE8 X-Spam-Score: 0.76 X-TUID: yoxCmtg6gCHB Hi, Simon Tournier skribis: > Somehow, if we do not have guidelines for helping in deciding, it makes > harder the review of #63088 [1] asking the inclusion of lc0 or it makes > hard to know what to do about GNU Backgamon. > > On these specific cases, what do we do? :-) Someone=E2=84=A2 has to invest time in studying this specific case, look at= what others like Debian are doing, and seek consensus on a way forward. Based on that, perhaps Someone=E2=84=A2 can generalize that decision-making process into more generic guidelines. It would definitely be beneficial. :-) (Yes, that=E2=80=99s very hand-wavy, but that=E2=80=99s really what needs t= o happen!) Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.