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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.48 X-Spam-Score: -1.48 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 8AD645875F X-Migadu-Scanner: mx0.migadu.com X-TUID: ijcInhznlUfw --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Cayetano! Allow me to chime in, although I'm green. Cayetano Santos aliandika: > Hi Guix, > > Following a recent patch to an snapshot of an emacs package > (emacs-mastodon), where latest stable (tagged) release dates back from > a long time, the question of whether to send patches for non stable > (tagged) versions is pertinent or not. > > Of course, the answer is clear: we only package stable. Guix manual > (22.4.3 Version Numbers) clearly states that "We usually package only > the latest version of a given free software project ... Occasionally, > we package snapshots of upstream=E2=80=99s version control system (VCS) > instead of formal releases. This should remain exceptional.". Fine > with that. > From=20my experience, this depends. In the python system, updating some things can have ripple effects that propagate to other packages, and sometimes in a not so nice way. For packages that have ripple effects, I find useful to package to the latest version upto where things are stable. Also, sometimes, a recent change can introduce a security bug, so in such a case, unless a patch is provided, I see no need to be in the latest version. [...] =2D-=20 (Life is like a pencil that will surely run out, but will leave the beautiful writing of life.) 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