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* [emacs]: snapshots against latest versions
@ 2023-09-12  7:55 Cayetano Santos
  2023-09-13 17:13 ` Munyoki Kilyungi
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Cayetano Santos @ 2023-09-12  7:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Guix Devel


Hi Guix,

  Following a recent patch to an snapshot of an emacs package
  (emacs-mastodon), where latest stable (tagged) release dates back from
  a long time, the question of whether to send patches for non stable
  (tagged) versions is pertinent or not.

  Of course, the answer is clear: we only package stable. Guix manual
  (22.4.3 Version Numbers) clearly states that "We usually package only
  the latest version of a given free software project ... Occasionally,
  we package snapshots of upstream’s version control system (VCS)
  instead of formal releases.  This should remain exceptional.". Fine
  with that.

  Now, regarding emacs-xyz packages, the situation is a bit ambiguous.
  We have (old?) (tagged) releases, as well as snapshots. What is the
  rule to follow when we contribute ? At what point in time do we
  consider we may submit patches for snapshots ? With which frequency ?
  Do we consider number or relevance of commits since latest version ?
  Do we base our decision on time elapsed ? Simply put, as for now, we
  have a mix of melpa-stable and melpa: when one may decide to forget
  stable and move forward to latest ? Of course, this is author’s role,
  but I’m wondering how subjective all of this is, and how this might
  impact quality of provided packages.

Best,

Cayetano


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* Re: [emacs]: snapshots against latest versions
  2023-09-12  7:55 [emacs]: snapshots against latest versions Cayetano Santos
@ 2023-09-13 17:13 ` Munyoki Kilyungi
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Munyoki Kilyungi @ 2023-09-13 17:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: csantosb, Guix Devel

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Hi Cayetano!  Allow me to chime in, although I'm
green.

Cayetano Santos <csantosb@inventati.org>
aliandika:

> Hi Guix,
>
>   Following a recent patch to an snapshot of an emacs package
>   (emacs-mastodon), where latest stable (tagged) release dates back from
>   a long time, the question of whether to send patches for non stable
>   (tagged) versions is pertinent or not.
>
>   Of course, the answer is clear: we only package stable. Guix manual
>   (22.4.3 Version Numbers) clearly states that "We usually package only
>   the latest version of a given free software project ... Occasionally,
>   we package snapshots of upstream’s version control system (VCS)
>   instead of formal releases.  This should remain exceptional.". Fine
>   with that.
>
From my experience, this depends.  In the python
system, updating some things can have ripple
effects that propagate to other packages, and
sometimes in a not so nice way.  For packages that
have ripple effects, I find useful to package to
the latest version upto where things are stable.
Also, sometimes, a recent change can introduce a
security bug, so in such a case, unless a patch is
provided, I see no need to be in the latest
version.

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