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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 9BC8113D9B X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.19 X-Spam-Score: -6.19 X-TUID: FUNQK4psbr62 Hi Felix, > On Wed, Nov 01 2023, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: > >> What do you think about changing =E2=80=9Cguix package=E2=80=9D and/or = =E2=80=9Cguix copy=E2=80=9D to >> better support deployment of remote profiles? > > As someone who uses 'guix deploy' all the time. I believe remote > administration is one of our core strengths and selling points. Other > remote administration tools like Ansible or Puppet are probably no > longer needed when using GNU Guix System. > > I currently have only x86_64 equipment deployed, so there is no > cross-building happening in my setup. Is that the main purpose of your > proposal? No, both machines are x86_64. I think =E2=80=9Cguix deploy=E2=80=9D could = benefit from a way to not only deploy Guix System (which makes the tool primarily useful for managing hosts, not applications) but also profiles and containers. --=20 Ricardo