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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: F272A507D8 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -11.55 X-Spam-Score: -11.55 X-TUID: OxegOmhmM+AP --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >ven. 13 d=C3=A9c. 2024 at 10:52, Suhail Singh w= rote: > Greg Hogan writes: > >> We only need a release team and a documented release process. Releases >> should be scheduled rather than depending on other teams. What benefit >> is there to the Guix user when glibc or the default gcc are updated? >> You're only a "guix pull" away from updated packages. >> >> As I recall, one issue for past releases was having to freeze all >> development on the master branch. With the new teams-branches model >> the release-team branch is just another branch, moving to the queue >> when ready to cut a new release. > > My sentiments precisely. Thank you, Greg, for describing the situation > clearly. Let me just play the dummies advocate for a moment, before leaving the room to most experienced people: consider the army of regular potential users not necessarily concerned about monads, variants and derivations (or even substitutes). They will be doing `whatever install guix`, and then they=E2=80=99ll happily start using guix: with a bit of documentation, they=E2=80=99ll love it. Thi= s is all they need to know. Don=E2=80=99t tell them to do a `python pull`, `fire= fox pull` or `guix pull`. It comes to the same for them: they won=E2=80=99t understand. Once they get used to use guix daily, they=E2=80=99ll care about pulls, cha= nnels or asking support for guix on the cluster. =2D- Cayetano Santos GnuPG Key: https://meta.sr.ht/~csantosb.pgp FingerPrint: CCB8 1842 F9D7 058E CD67 377A BF5C DF4D F6BF 6682 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iI0EARYKADUWIQTMuBhC+dcFjs1nN3q/XN9N9r9mggUCZ1xgnhccY3NhbnRvc2JA aW52ZW50YXRpLm9yZwAKCRC/XN9N9r9mglE/APwJrelMpF2vlmvT9fQfzQyFhkfZ /CC/wh+Lcav8MA7jMQEAs35jnNKO0TmaFgZcQ7vf3/bEMGmyWbiz9udi52JlfQg= =tQKa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--