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No. I meant package. > I would rather have nothing depend on ZFS by default, but we=20 > could have > =E2=80=9Clibvirt-with-zfs=E2=80=9D etc. Who knows, but I'd rather just revert the commit and be done with=20 it. =E2=80=98Nothing depend on ZFS by default=E2=80=99 is clear and unambi= guous.=20 Thanks! > I agree that GNOME Boxes and libvirt should not depend on ZFS by=20 > default > because (1) ZFS is an optional feature and probably not widely=20 > used, Yeah, this is still a bug, but it's up to the GNOME users to deal=20 with :-) Kind regards, T G-R --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iIMEARYKACsWIQT12iAyS4c9C3o4dnINsP+IT1VteQUCYOWXGQ0cbWVAdG9iaWFz LmdyAAoJEA2w/4hPVW15R3cA/Rqkn7/OCO+OkqvxygQfuk0FtrjG+1dNlLrWZ60/ qR3NAP9QYuznKcLKzSmUKn7AwptI03lfJjSWkKoiWljDtyn0Dw== =27To -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--