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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1626103475; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=v26QVoaNLgQW2kaLfs+0OQTXFW+PvoQhmsulCA6NmAY=; b=jzg9Xlsd1NFLVoqoP5+bwD4HZXSey0iH0yq/U6cU6JLJtJglHxyeo809uMkqQLZLzcA7EA mqUrcZwKIsVZOkkMxLswXQRqbILJx8vch77MqgEb7T6eCW3E4oe8uNk6QbWOQUwEV8uxod drFkUSFdJPPAJwuj4k6VdEREE1AEvXhlTPopCdGrthTbW4fuuFUe56JcSd6WycZH9s/Xr1 uQmef37cLtli2Bw/68uUJhwlzio0gYI4zTZxBwWYYl/MF0WN/cu0QqNK5jCO+eGpBfGQ7z q6XEcs8xPE4dFIoHu6hJ/MpYEj5CBSJA92DWG9FinOpUuJbkbp8SNjsZfcmQkQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1626103475; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=d1XeAy+S+NSVqD7yxPEDv9ChYZMbjj/Z3tm9YAqhRF3CssOYALf0QCzzRj2oIhLtnmXLQP dEKZj0gW1qtwsAnwmkbmjEwNC4l9TDzTZJb0JIBK9WNLHOJszRS1/zKooGaFTnR2nTTt+d vvfpIfaDSGk6/dUS45r8WWiZhpp5FMYNyITNIoLKqOrQr7SiGeG89e+u5xJiUUrfp/YfuF e5HY2+aDjeiNKevk4mxMFWopISYLSP/7B4hm8iCt/dsAvNeo4CpE2ZvjoXubOprqLeZjZC fTR3i5Dzawq430o4vd4462B2y4GzPSkz20gccqUXiqSocmTphQUDRTGVNOHIwQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=disroot.org header.s=mail header.b=fVZAUrjk; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=disroot.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.60 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=disroot.org header.s=mail header.b=fVZAUrjk; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=disroot.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: AD380E951 X-Spam-Score: -2.60 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: vi2JE+xviKxX Giovanni Biscuolo writes: >> * A new privacy policy > > That's relevant only for people using telemetry (off by default); AFAIU > privacy policies are not covered by FSDG: am I wrong? Muse Group's new privacy policy for Audacity has added telemetry on by default. For more details see: > I'm not following discussions on GitHub on telemetry but AFAIU the > situation has not changed since we had the above mentioned discussions: > am I wrong? When telemetry in Audacity was discussed previously here Muse Group's telemetry policy for Audacity was that the telemetry be off by default. However Muse Group's new privacy policy introduces on by default telemetry. For more details see: > In general, we can take as granted that if we find a package in Guix > with telemetry enabled by default we can consider it a bug a file a > proper bug report so it can be fixed if possible or the package removed > if not. Guix's current package of Audacity does not have telemetry on by default. Muse Group is aware of the issue of telemetry on by default and it appears that they are going to proceed with telemetry on by default in future versions of Audacity. >> # Guix and Audacity >> >> Before the next update of the version of Audacity that Guix packages >> it would probably be a good idea to reassess the situation with Muse >> Group's Audacity and the Audacity forks. > > I think the situation it's already clear enough to agree there is no > issue with the introduction of optional telemetry in Aucacity in > particular Muse Group's new privacy policy for Audacity has added telemetry on by default and an age restriction that contradicts freedom 0 and Audacity's GPL version 2 license. For more details see: