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From: Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org>
To: John Darrington <john@darrington.wattle.id.au>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, Georgi Kirilov <kirilov.georgi.s@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: A postinst equivalent in Guix?
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 10:19:33 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a8af3yei.fsf@dustycloud.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170125134241.GA25335@jocasta.intra>

John Darrington writes:

> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 02:15:12PM +0100, Ludovic Court??s wrote:
>      Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org> skribis:
>
>      > Ludovic Court??s writes:
>      >
>      >> Georgi Kirilov <kirilov.georgi.s@gmail.com> skribis:
>      >>
>      >>> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 04:34:55PM +0100, Ludovic Court??s wrote:
>      >>>
>      >>>>To make things more concrete, we could discuss specific packages you are
>      >>>>interested in and see how we could provide them in Guix{,SD}.
>      >>>
>      >>> The package is the old bsd-games bundle. Some of the games need to
>      >>> write score files under /var/lib/bsdgames/
>      >>> You can find attached my patch so far.
>      >>
>      >> The patch looks good to me!
>      >>
>      >> As for /var/lib/bsdgames, then it???s up to the admin to set the right
>      >> permissions on it.  We can ensure that it exists and has the right
>      >> permissions on GuixSD, but on foreign distros, there???s nothing we can
>      >> do.
>      >>
>      >> We could also modify bsd-games such that it falls back to
>      >> ~/.local/bsdgames when /var/lib/bsdgames isn???t accessible (and it would
>      >> be worth submitting upstream).  ISTR this was discussed for one of the
>      >> games present in Guix.
>      >>
>      >> WDYT?
>      >>
>      >> Ludo???.
>      >
>      > I'm a bit wary about GuixSD packages declaring being able to write to
>      > /var/ anything by default.  What would the permissions be?  I guess if
>      > it were world-writable to all "users" group users it would be okayish.
>      >
>      > Note that KoboDeluxe includes a patch snarfed from Debian that comments
>      > out the ability to save score files for this same reason, and it was
>      > marked in Debian as a security patch IIRC...
>
>      Yeah, I think scores in /var are a remnant of the past.  Unix just lacks
>      a good way to address this use case.
>
>      So it sounds best for games to use a score file under $HOME by default.
>
> I always thought the unix way was rather nice.   The scores file was owned by
> "games" and programs which wanted to write to them were setuid games.
>
> That way everyone on the system shares the same scores file.
>
> J'

It's fun but... does anyone still play games on the same shared machine
anymore and compare score files?

Except for maybe nethack on fencepost ... ;)

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-25 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-19 18:30 A postinst equivalent in Guix? Georgi Kirilov
2017-01-20  6:23 ` John Darrington
2017-01-20 14:09 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-01-21 14:39   ` Georgi Kirilov
2017-01-21 15:34     ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-01-21 16:36       ` Georgi Kirilov
2017-01-23  9:34         ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-01-25  0:26           ` Christopher Allan Webber
2017-01-25 13:15             ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-01-25 13:42               ` John Darrington
2017-01-25 16:19                 ` Christopher Allan Webber [this message]
2017-01-25 14:54           ` Georgi Kirilov

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