* Re: Requesting permission to post a job search in guix-devel [not found] ` <5975dde8-78de-1085-b9fd-775bd25d0d27@softwareworkers.it> @ 2023-02-28 13:50 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice 2023-05-19 11:17 ` Business as Code and GNU way of doing business (was: Re: Requesting permission to post a job search in guix-devel) Andrea Rossi 0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice @ 2023-02-28 13:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrea Rossi; +Cc: Giovanni Biscuolo, Guix Devel [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 565 bytes --] Hi Andrea [on-list], So, good news. A majority of maintainers has awoken, and all agree that job searches are welcome on guix-devel@ as long as they: 1. are related to Guix, obviously not an issue here; 2. do not promote non-free software. Promotion would include applicants being ‘encouraged’ or required to produce non-free software to get (or increase their chances of getting) the job. Certainly not the vibe I got from your company, so if you/Gio' can vouch for that, feel welcome to share your post! Best of luck, T G-R [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 247 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
* Business as Code and GNU way of doing business (was: Re: Requesting permission to post a job search in guix-devel) 2023-02-28 13:50 ` Requesting permission to post a job search in guix-devel Tobias Geerinckx-Rice @ 2023-05-19 11:17 ` Andrea Rossi 2023-05-20 19:09 ` Business as Code and GNU way of doing business vidak 0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread From: Andrea Rossi @ 2023-05-19 11:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Guix Devel Hello everyone, Here are some thoughts after the search and subsequent appointment of a developer to work in a GNU-oriented workplace. On 28/02/23 14:50, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice wrote: > Hi Andrea [on-list], > > So, good news. > > A majority of maintainers has awoken, and all agree that job searches > are welcome on guix-devel@ as long as they: > > 1. are related to Guix, obviously not an issue here; > 2. do not promote non-free software. > > Promotion would include applicants being ‘encouraged’ or required to > produce non-free software to get (or increase their chances of getting) > the job. > > Certainly not the vibe I got from your company, so if you/Gio' can vouch > for that, feel welcome to share your post! > > Best of luck, > > T G-R 1) TOOLS AND MINDSET GO HAND IN HAND People who adhere to the Unix philosophy [0] (to name one of the pillars of our approach) are more likely to use tools that are consistent with it. At the same time, people who prefer different approaches tend to use different tools. Track record is important in the selection of candidates, but their fit with the culture of the workplace is also important and in the long run a major success factor. 2) MINDSET AND VALUES ALSO GO HAND IN HAND Although this is a statement based on anecdotal experience rather than statistical evidence, we believe that mindset is related to values. More specifically, we believe that the technical mindset we value most is related to the hacker ethic. 3) A COMMON SET OF VALUES COULD FORM THE BASIS OF A "GNU WAY OF DOING BUSINESS" In the spirit of reproducibility, we are trying to express every aspect of the business in code form: from accounting to project management to contracts, we are migrating everything into a text format that can be managed with a version control system. We do this because we see reproducibility as both an obligation and an opportunity: - An obligation to our stakeholders, who must be able to rely on the reproducibility not only of the software we deliver, but of the entire context in which that software can be run, maintained and used. - And an opportunity for us, because it allows us to scale the organisation at the only cost of bringing new people on board (hackers are welcome - as stated in point 2). 4) DIVERSITY AND OPENNESS PREVENT FANATICISM The above is nothing new: in addition to the many open source companies scattered around the world, there are also a handful of theoretical contributions (the Wikipedia article 'Commons-based peer production' [1] is a good starting point to delve into the topic). The problem is that all of this is struggling to break the glass ceiling beyond which mainstream business dominates our lives and conditions our future. Until the "GNU way of doing business" contaminates a critical mass of corporations, government agencies, and non-profits, we will have to contend with being weird when we are probably just pioneers. Contamination is the key word, and while we are aware that contamination is often mutual, we will have to face the market to make a difference. Regards, Andrea [0] Which, by the way, should be kept up to date. Should we perhaps call it "re(GNU)wed Unix philosophy, or just "GNU philosophy? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commons-based_peer_production -- Andrea Rossi OpenPGP key: FCE2EDE78BD9B2CB Software Workers srl https://softwareworkers.it ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
* Re: Business as Code and GNU way of doing business 2023-05-19 11:17 ` Business as Code and GNU way of doing business (was: Re: Requesting permission to post a job search in guix-devel) Andrea Rossi @ 2023-05-20 19:09 ` vidak 0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread From: vidak @ 2023-05-20 19:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrea Rossi; +Cc: Guix Devel On 2023-05-19 19:17, Andrea Rossi wrote: > Hello everyone, > Here are some thoughts after the search and subsequent appointment of a > developer to work in a GNU-oriented workplace. > > > On 28/02/23 14:50, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice wrote: >> Hi Andrea [on-list], >> >> So, good news. >> >> A majority of maintainers has awoken, and all agree that job searches are welcome on guix-devel@ as long as they: >> >> 1. are related to Guix, obviously not an issue here; >> 2. do not promote non-free software. >> >> Promotion would include applicants being ‘encouraged’ or required to produce non-free software to get (or increase their chances of getting) the job. >> >> Certainly not the vibe I got from your company, so if you/Gio' can vouch for that, feel welcome to share your post! >> >> Best of luck, >> >> T G-R > I absolutely agree with the above decision anyway. Those two requirements are entirely sound. Good to see people posting job adverts for Guix. Loving it. ~vidak > > 1) TOOLS AND MINDSET GO HAND IN HAND > > People who adhere to the Unix philosophy [0] (to name one of the pillars > of our approach) are more likely to use tools that are consistent with > it. At the same time, people who prefer different approaches tend to use > different tools. > Track record is important in the selection of candidates, but their fit > with the culture of the workplace is also important and in the long run > a major success factor. > > > > 2) MINDSET AND VALUES ALSO GO HAND IN HAND > > Although this is a statement based on anecdotal experience rather than > statistical evidence, we believe that mindset is related to values. More > specifically, we believe that the technical mindset we value most is > related to the hacker ethic. > > > > 3) A COMMON SET OF VALUES COULD FORM THE BASIS OF A "GNU WAY OF DOING > BUSINESS" > > In the spirit of reproducibility, we are trying to express every aspect > of the business in code form: from accounting to project management to > contracts, we are migrating everything into a text format that can be > managed with a version control system. > > We do this because we see reproducibility as both an obligation and an > opportunity: > > - An obligation to our stakeholders, who must be able to rely on the > reproducibility not only of the software we deliver, but of the entire > context in which that software can be run, maintained and used. > > - And an opportunity for us, because it allows us to scale the > organisation at the only cost of bringing new people on board (hackers > are welcome - as stated in point 2). > > > > 4) DIVERSITY AND OPENNESS PREVENT FANATICISM > > The above is nothing new: in addition to the many open source companies > scattered around the world, there are also a handful of theoretical > contributions (the Wikipedia article 'Commons-based peer production' [1] > is a good starting point to delve into the topic). > > The problem is that all of this is struggling to break the glass ceiling > beyond which mainstream business dominates our lives and conditions our > future. Until the "GNU way of doing business" contaminates a critical > mass of corporations, government agencies, and non-profits, we will have > to contend with being weird when we are probably just pioneers. > Contamination is the key word, and while we are aware that contamination > is often mutual, we will have to face the market to make a difference. > > Regards, > Andrea > > > [0] Which, by the way, should be kept up to date. Should we perhaps call > it "re(GNU)wed Unix philosophy, or just "GNU philosophy? > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commons-based_peer_production ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
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