From: Cayetano Santos <csantosb@inventati.org>
To: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: On the quest for a new release model (was: Discussion notes on releases and branches)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 09:37:35 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a5d0dlm8.fsf@inventati.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y+Tk0OKTyKKDqqlm@jurong>
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Hi Guix,
Let me spin off last year thread on releases (flavored by an external to
the project point of view), with the goal to relaunch the debate on
releases.
Disclaimer: the rolling release model is great and more than enough for
me, and teams constitute an mportant step forward.
Disclaimer 2: guix-system is probably great, but using guix as a foreign
package manager is absolutely paramount, and would open the door to all
things guix, bringing lots of new users/contributors.
Now, any user in the world may install guix and upgrade to latest
version, sure. But.
First, for the current needs:
- distributions privilege and package guix releases (alpine, debian,
- arch, etc.), as guix itself does
- 1.4.0 dates back from 2 years ago
- in my experience, people tend to give guix a try, check obsolete sw,
just give up, no matter the remaining advantages
- remote ci/cd images need to refer to a release for traceability
- apt-get install guix (1.4.0) && guix pull is a painful experience
Additionally, releases makes people talk about guix, give an overall
positive impression of the community, and are a good argument (and
publicity !) in favor of using it (unfortunate, but that’s the way it
goes). See emacs devel cycle, for example.
Now, for (a very naif) proposal (from a non contributor).
- simver[1] is the way to go
- devel as the branch for developments, master for releases and
security/bug fixes
- major should follow core merges to devel
- minor should follow non-core teams merges
- patch fixes are backported to master
Yes, you guess [2] it.
Please, consider all the previous as an excuse to motivate the need for
releases, not as serious guidelines (I’m not the right person for that.)
For what I see around me, guix could easily be used by a larger audience
(foreign first, system then). Releases are a real requirement to that
goal.
Best,
[1] https://semver.org/
[2] https://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-13 8:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-09 12:19 Discussion notes on releases and branches Andreas Enge
2023-02-12 21:13 ` Moving forward with teams and feature branches (was: Discussion notes on releases and branches) Josselin Poiret
2023-02-12 21:34 ` Andreas Enge
2023-02-13 9:32 ` Time for RFC? (was Re: Moving forward with teams and feature branches (was: Discussion notes on releases and branches)) zimoun
2023-02-13 14:07 ` Moving forward with teams and feature branches (was: Discussion notes on releases and branches) Andreas Enge
2023-02-14 19:12 ` Leo Famulari
2023-02-13 9:22 ` Release (was " Simon Tournier
2023-02-14 10:14 ` Rust team branch " Efraim Flashner
2023-02-14 16:36 ` Rust team branch Andreas Enge
2023-02-14 20:07 ` Efraim Flashner
2023-02-16 10:56 ` Andreas Enge
2023-02-14 16:36 ` Rust team branch (was Re: Discussion notes on releases and branches) Katherine Cox-Buday
2023-02-14 20:08 ` Efraim Flashner
2023-02-15 17:49 ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2023-03-17 15:24 ` Discussion notes on releases and branches Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2023-03-18 17:42 ` Leo Famulari
2024-12-13 8:37 ` Cayetano Santos [this message]
2024-12-13 12:03 ` On the quest for a new release model Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-13 13:01 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 15:21 ` Greg Hogan
2024-12-13 15:52 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 16:05 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 16:28 ` Cayetano Santos
2024-12-13 17:21 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 20:34 ` Cayetano Santos
2024-12-13 22:13 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-13 22:27 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 23:08 ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-12-14 1:38 ` John Kehayias via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-12-13 16:04 ` Simon Josefsson via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-12-13 17:47 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 20:14 ` Tomas Volf
2024-12-13 22:13 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14 8:59 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-14 14:23 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14 12:26 ` Tomas Volf
2024-12-14 14:49 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14 8:53 ` Ricardo Wurmus
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