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From: Marius Bakke <mbakke@fastmail.com>
To: Jan Wielkiewicz <tona_kosmicznego_smiecia@interia.pl>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Maintaining GNU Jami package for Guix
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 17:37:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878sowq5l5.fsf@devup.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191101130139.6193f6df@interia.pl>

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Jan Wielkiewicz <tona_kosmicznego_smiecia@interia.pl> writes:

> Dnia 2019-10-31, o godz. 23:26:39
> Marius Bakke <mbakke@fastmail.com> napisał(a):
>
>> Do you have a link to the patches that Jami/pjproject needs?
> You can find patches in the ring-project/daemon/contrib/src/pjproject
> directory from the latest source tarball here:
> https://dl.jami.net/ring-release/tarballs/

I did not find any cURL or GnuTLS patches there.  Maybe I misunderstood
something?

>> It would be great if we could use system versions of GnuTLS and cURL,
>> because otherwise Jami risks not getting security updates.
> A bit unlikely, they update dependencies quickly, but they're slower
> than upstream. Keeping a separate version and updating it paralelly
> will prevent breaking the build process of the modified pjproject
> version. 
>
>> If they really need special patched versions of some libraries, you
>> can do something along these lines to create a
>> cusctm variant:
>> 
>> (define-public gnutls/jami
>>   (hidden-package
>>    (package/inherit
>>     gnutls
>>     (source (origin
>>               (inherit (package-source gnutls))
>>               (patches (append (origin-patches gnutls)
>>                                (search-patches
>> "gnutls-jami.patch"))))))))
> Why can't we just keep paralell version for a package? Like 
> gnutls @ 3.6.7, gnutls @ 3.6.9 etc?   

Both GnuTLS and cURL have stable ABIs.  That means, a package linked
against cURL 7.63 will almost certainly work with cURL 7.66 without
changes (even without recompilation).

There are many reasons not to include multiple versions of a package,
but for cURL and GnuTLS in particular, the main reason is that there are
security fixes in nearly every new version.  Thus, we can only support
the latest one.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-11-03 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-18 18:56 Maintaining GNU Jami package for Guix Jan
2019-10-18 19:28 ` Marius Bakke
2019-10-19  9:02   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-19 20:38     ` Jan Wielkiewicz
2019-10-19 20:52       ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-10-19 22:37         ` Jan
2019-10-20 11:14           ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-10-20 11:51           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-20 11:48       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-25 15:03         ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-25 19:44           ` Jan Wielkiewicz
2019-10-26 10:12             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-26 23:24               ` Jan Wielkiewicz
2019-10-28  7:53                 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-27 18:13 ` Jan Wielkiewicz
2019-10-27 18:18   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-27 19:23     ` Jan Wielkiewicz
2019-10-27 21:52 ` Jan Wielkiewicz
2019-10-31 20:19 ` Jan Wielkiewicz
2019-10-31 21:37   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-31 22:26   ` Marius Bakke
2019-11-01 12:01     ` Jan Wielkiewicz
2019-11-01 19:02       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-11-01 20:42         ` Jan Wielkiewicz
2019-11-02  9:38           ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-11-03 16:37       ` Marius Bakke [this message]
2019-11-03 17:43         ` Jan
2019-11-03 18:06           ` Marius Bakke
2019-11-01 12:29 ` Jan Wielkiewicz
2019-11-01 19:01   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-11-01 23:16     ` Jan Wielkiewicz
2019-11-03 10:15       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-11-03 10:54         ` Jan Wielkiewicz
2019-11-04 10:02           ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-11-03 10:59         ` Jan Wielkiewicz
2019-11-03 17:07   ` Marius Bakke
2019-11-03 17:47     ` Jan
2019-11-03 18:12   ` Marius Bakke
2019-11-03 18:27     ` Jan
2019-11-03 18:52       ` Marius Bakke

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