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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1616509148; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=6blnLG6Yln9Cwn0sh5ez6By909y+gCJZKuyD2dlnR/0=; b=EpIhHOAHsTlHZ6t/t0OYu+vS+pG9Zo5kKdgXw9p4IxFRGGYCTfFKxLCsz9PNtcTA05xQp4 yAtVk1ZrOj+zo75Kj+5u657t4ODEfQ23woJYVU9WBnstvmnFCxUNU//wVLf3giC/X9dScy eUVsCJHP7czoUuj8nVEw8+X2aT/NAgq80137bBpAQvJDKQLT8NZfuHhZbThRMRDxKETgCl vjx7rNsFSZqemo02UVrIK9DoefwUsH82pKxT5UfoEK1+K+bUuo6Ycw6h1VNMy2eqlNOvQZ eR/LZvMKLqmIaAIuM9n79JEmcYEFFImSZmGkzmFW//sPuNIBMAmSRCqTSr3Njw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1616509148; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Y9fEqOifeuDt/J/BXsoTIOp+LPURufb5IAicir+NQbxrK7za1GAU9kwl/hm73GjSMQ503q 4bTv0nUKIM5d1ShY/WXXodpsxA8KGWSA5CwlqS9KbGaTiAKZGsQhBmeqE1BR47amE+t1JP T/LuySyh6a+1JXBREVGkvNM4OywVWgO0/8uJdqxlPCCBFgrrSk6h3ggY9biqjLHO64PG1f 6IRW1cP1qKnVuR4TCcra6QGwGoe1gPmoAi5xNlwIge0MM5Z29mqNYrRG99so36hou9wAAk CZ6DyD+rdZvqIAm4edcAoX+Z8zbRRHnqN2EAxBS23hm6ErGSYO8wxvJvAVNXyA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.92 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: DCE71258B9 X-Spam-Score: -2.92 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: Tk5yRaFWylw6 Hi, Gurjeet Singh skribis: > Does a self-contained GuixSD installer exist? I tried running GuixSD > in a VM (in VBox, on macOS), and for that I downloaded the ISO image. > The ISO image, after a few prompts, then tries to install everything > from the internet. The Guix System (formerly known as =E2=80=9CGuixSD=E2=80=9D) installer cann= ot be entirely self-contained because there are many different choices users can make from there: desktop environments, network services, etc. However, if you choose a bare-bones, non-graphical kind of system installation, most if not all of it is already in the ISO. > If everything is being downloaded and installed from the internet, why > does the image have to be so huge (~500MB > guix-system-install-1.2.0.x86_64-linux.iso.xz)? Good question. > Is it possible to deliver the /gnu/store on the ISO so that a minimal > system can be installed and started, without having to connect to the > Internet? That should be the case. We have installation tests in VMs that are all made without network access: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tree/gnu/tests/install.scm We cheat a little bit to make sure that absolutely nothing is downloaded, but like I wrote, a regular install for a non-graphical system should have little to nothing to download. HTH, Ludo=E2=80=99.