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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx0.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.37 X-Spam-Score: -2.37 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 8A4CA61F11 X-TUID: nmPbesR8ssXU Hi all, I'm glad we're having this difficult but necessary conversation. I have been following the conversation with much interest. There seems to be a developing consensus that we should switch to sourcehut. I am all in favour of any decision the community comes to on this. But, meanwhile, I wish to remind everyone that we already have a mumi CLI client that takes away some of the pain of dealing with Debbugs. It operates fully on the command-line and does not require Emacs at all. This CLI client has so far been undocumented. So, I thought it helpful to document it and put it into the manual. I have sent a patch to https://issues.guix.gnu.org/65746 Regards, Arun