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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Building and caching old Guix derivations for a faster time machine
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 16:39:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878r6xu2pe.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o7g29c94.fsf@elephly.net> (Ricardo Wurmus's message of "Fri, 10 Nov 2023 10:29:28 +0100")

Hi,

Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> skribis:

> to me the biggest downside of using “guix time-machine” is that it has
> to do a lot of boring work before the interesting work begins.  The
> boring work includes building Guix derivations for the given channels,
> most of which have long been collected as garbage on ci.guix.gnu.org.
>
> It would be helpful, I think, to more aggressively cache these
> derivations and their outputs, and to go back in time and build the
> derivatinons for past revisions of Guix.  I would expect there to be a
> lot of overlap in the produced files, so perhaps it won’t cost all that
> much in terms of storage.
>
> What do you think?

I agree.  The ‘guix publish’ TTL¹ at ci.guix was increased to 180 days
following <https://issues.guix.gnu.org/48926> in 2021.  That’s still not
that much and these days and right now we have 84 TiB free at ci.guix.

I guess we can afford increasing the TTL, probably starting with, say,
300 days, and monitoring disk usage.

WDYT?

For longer-term storage though, we’ll need a solution like what Simon
described, offered by university colleagues.  I’m not sure why this
particular effort stalled; we should check with whoever spearheaded it
and see if we can resume.

Thanks,
Ludo’.

¹ That’s the time-to-live, which denotes the minimum time a substitute
  is kept.  Anytime a substitute is queried, its “age” is reset; if
  nobody asks for it, it may be reclaimed after its TTL has expired.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-16 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-10  9:29 Building and caching old Guix derivations for a faster time machine Ricardo Wurmus
2023-11-16  9:59 ` Simon Tournier
2023-11-16 15:39 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2023-11-18  4:27   ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-11-22 18:27     ` Ludovic Courtès
2023-11-29 16:34       ` Simon Tournier
2023-11-30 13:28         ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-11-30 14:05           ` Guillaume Le Vaillant
2023-12-05  1:18             ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-01-12  9:56           ` Simon Tournier
2024-01-15  4:02             ` Maxim Cournoyer

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