Janneke Nieuwenhuizen writes:

Hi!

>> Long story short: I’d like us to freeze and merge the branch ASAP,
>> notably because the glibc graft on ‘master’ leads to a bad user
>> experience.  I’m happy with the current state of the branch and wouldn’t
>> mind postponing remaining upgrades for the next cycle.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>
> FWIW, I'm all for this.  The longer we wait, the harder it gets?  As
> soon as everything works, see below...

Hmm, I just found than binutils 2.41 update makes guix system builds
hang.

Trying to build a bare-bones system on latest core-updates

    8e9573784f gnu: binutils: Use gexps.

makes my builds hang, something like this:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
./pre-inst-env guix system build gnu/system/examples/bare-bones.tmpl --substitute-urls='https://ci.guix.gnu.org https://bordeaux.guix.gnu.org'
The following derivations will be built:
  /gnu/store/lhzmfv4jpxa5q578mj9a5cqm605szd0v-openssh-sans-x-9.6p1.drv
  /gnu/store/0fsnwwdq2lfs312x4wklaifahrd4g6s8-libfido2-1.12.0.drv
  /gnu/store/4z6bhwca0c77vfyv08r17180bfhk1yan-libcbor-0.9.0.drv
  /gnu/store/hg2m6hwxvbr2g24vy6671mpkib8zsw97-cmake-minimal-3.24.2.drv
  /gnu/store/caz92q8bjv8f4lj521p46mlzkvhn41da-jsoncpp-1.9.5.drv
  /gnu/store/38r0krrvy8pq9jrmp7c0ma2kbx8qd701-meson-1.1.0.drv
  /gnu/store/a0gkj5v8siy3gz6lfb1nqcb4wsqzn8ya-ninja-1.11.1.drv
  /gnu/store/b0fbaqrac56icsxscxpvdfng5z6yhq71-python-wrapper-3.10.7.drv
  /gnu/store/fz4hgpbh9lknxzidwv5x137x0b7migh0-python-3.10.7.drv
  /gnu/store/yj95nxjdbpvsxsylf6gcnxlx4rp8mcc4-tk-8.6.12.drv
  /gnu/store/10m9hdrrpmnhr3znzly85xlgzjn749c4-fontconfig-minimal-2.14.0.drv
  /gnu/store/d93f9wnfkvc1xvympka1cb22rw503y11-util-linux-2.37.4.drv
  /gnu/store/sjqccg7x5y3fsqw5ckfycnpn7xr8j7r9-libxft-2.3.4.drv
  /gnu/store/cp13i1j9ps9pyjwc15g816b85dkyl0vq-cmake-bootstrap-3.24.2.drv
  /gnu/store/lhgklfavn3vzb54k79a0b92l7igf924k-eudev-3.2.11.drv
  /gnu/store/akc2na9mq2828dn8jrsmbiqa2ig2vlfl-docbook-xml-4.2.drv
  /gnu/store/d446f0fvxiyb0yyn29m810xx0ir7pkhy-docbook-xml-4.2.zip.drv
  /gnu/store/hn4hfa29m37nw8h5zhsmvalv8k2l2yig-libxslt-1.1.37.drv
  /gnu/store/sih04p2g7biabl2vmpiyzi2y7qricsfd-kmod-29.drv
  /gnu/store/rgchv9xwb9b5yxlm735dkviqg4wcil6l-groff-1.22.4.drv
  /gnu/store/fjw8nmqbp4dnw7z50vf4irnw89dmpk43-ghostscript-9.56.1.drv
  /gnu/store/9d5bvapjn204psjhy7y6ha7s44bm5qfw-libtiff-4.4.0.drv
  /gnu/store/jv2c49136qjjc07ci672wgs75jzi6dnm-libjpeg-turbo-2.1.4.drv
  /gnu/store/m0i18w2cph650ij00an2a1d9qkmqh719-guix-1.4.0-16.aeb4943.drv
  /gnu/store/k14d28rr2m9k81zsypy9lq5pvn8k2ll0-glib-2.72.3.drv
  /gnu/store/m8khxba6l2jrgpwgfb0g8wh8snjpa0sc-gd-2.3.2.drv
  /gnu/store/k14d28rr2m9k81zsypy9lq5pvn8k2ll0-glib-2.72.3.drv
  /gnu/store/48qac6sz2v7mfl5mkwdrkd2z87ixmdsa-fuse-3.10.5.drv
  /gnu/store/1ph5lg8zqzdjihwc7l9im70fzbb1cyah-sudo-1.9.14p3.drv
  /gnu/store/3hmfw28ah140d3x1yw9i6cm7lzmcjmxi-ath9k-htc-firmware-1.4.0.drv
  /gnu/store/jvypzi6nzykx7nnd63f4idivpj9j9wim-binutils-cross-xtensa-elf-2.33.1.drv
  /gnu/store/a1nw6yk94darc88n0pdbvrgza8wq31f3-binutils-2.33.1.tar.zst.drv
  /gnu/store/krpdfg0qyyany9xc5ij3d4gcrwa9xnl6-gcc-cross-sans-libc-xtensa-elf-11.4.0.drv
  /gnu/store/54lg5936smd3qz46s9103rz1ydkk3b8k-gcc-11.4.0.tar.zst.drv
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  /gnu/store/gn6xkcxyg39p3h219w6fy5rdzgapbg28-font-gnu-unifont-15.1.01.drv
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  /gnu/store/6fb0kk7h8ab5kb0x3clbwjd8id1gp48v-graphite2-1.3.13.drv
  /gnu/store/h7zhalr1x8q45y0y8g4fr4b702qydpzq-python-fonttools-minimal-4.39.3.drv
  /gnu/store/8hv25v0b53fw310dc1lm109h8p99dhx2-pixman-0.42.2.drv
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  /gnu/store/3zprmc5g596x3kfypxv3jnbwz0r17s8j-libspectre-0.2.10.drv
  /gnu/store/8x4h6wrwhpx9vd2mxfyzcx2z5nqf6rxc-gobject-introspection-1.72.0.drv
  /gnu/store/aiaa10v9s58sxppdsq68qdvhy30nh64w-poppler-22.09.0.drv
  /gnu/store/9hw0jx1l8pbigvwhvac7397jk6vd8avl-poppler-data-0.4.11.drv
  /gnu/store/baxa9bqxyr1r6fl45vdn7vgw67jcgri3-cairo-1.16.0.drv
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  /gnu/store/vjwmxprd3h2xgwapdj2mmajiq0jgaq3g-libpciaccess-0.16.drv
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  /gnu/store/jyyzbwangjpk248q25p07dibmc12cdr0-libsm-1.2.3.drv
  /gnu/store/lhmm4plz7ccchg3q4bajc8ckdkp8dsx6-potrace-1.16.drv
  /gnu/store/sdy15gp9vvdjsx9z9031l1nsarxaw7hr-libxi-1.7.10.drv
  /gnu/store/7hzd53sswnyjxp7ng7vhm0sw8f0l7ars-unifont-15.1.01.tar.zst.drv
  /gnu/store/9kwz4m5l1jxn3v4zwia6pkqc7xc3fhaq-perl-gd-2.73.drv
  /gnu/store/vphahbm51dzkqklsznhfdd46gc3c7ldd-perl-extutils-pkgconfig-1.16.drv
  /gnu/store/ivlznmdp4bymx8vw8vh10b2svhdv4ngv-bdftopcf-1.1.drv
  /gnu/store/cnrgn076hzzf0dfrdx1ay2fmsmblxgjn-libxfont-2.0.4.drv
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37.1 MB will be downloaded:
  /gnu/store/31kg7d3kss14nwgx0kzhfi2ls5l7agv3-unifont-15.1.01.tar.gz
  /gnu/store/69bvs8v5dbsc6gb3gpli4hlvkqlcvdna-fuse-3.10.5.tar.xz
  /gnu/store/866x4xwfb9s4j2y3f809qi1i6w5n2f09-avahi-0.8
  /gnu/store/jypawv1gvkr6v2n0vi8n79j4y6z6jpy7-guile-avahi-0.4.1
  /gnu/store/jpybmbc71ahiw9dyvszfh6xn5a60s25g-util-linux-2.37.4
  /gnu/store/6x525gmd8j25grkhh3p9awpbw9xq1bb8-gts-0.7.6
  /gnu/store/p77bf7vfa92x75w3fnsq7mys4nsf5f19-graphviz-minimal-7.0.1
  /gnu/store/qy68wigyhxjm5mhgqgkd427z19lqzhip-disarchive-0.5.0
  /gnu/store/m7w9168zdq1vbkm8hn220xgcp7iav9ka-guile-semver-0.1.1
substituting /gnu/store/69bvs8v5dbsc6gb3gpli4hlvkqlcvdna-fuse-3.10.5.tar.xz...
process 20694 acquired build slot '/var/guix/offload/kluit.dezyne.org:22/0'
normalized load on machine 'kluit.dezyne.org' is 0.00
building /gnu/store/3liqjbh0dlqcw17pgzx7872brj7qs2cw-bdfresize-1.5-11.drv...
process 20700 acquired build slot '/var/guix/offload/kluit.dezyne.org:22/1'
normalized load on machine 'kluit.dezyne.org' is 0.00
building /gnu/store/a1nw6yk94darc88n0pdbvrgza8wq31f3-binutils-2.33.1.tar.zst.drv...
process 20708 acquired build slot '/var/guix/offload/kluit.dezyne.org:22/2'
normalized load on machine 'kluit.dezyne.org' is 0.00
building /gnu/store/54lg5936smd3qz46s9103rz1ydkk3b8k-gcc-11.4.0.tar.zst.drv...
<hang>
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

I first encountered this problem trying to ressurrect the Hurd system
build.

After some time, "substitute: updating substitutes bla blah" may be
printed (again and again), but no progress seems to be made.

Building the .drv's by hand, such as

    ./pre-inst-env guix build /gnu/store/a1nw6yk94darc88n0pdbvrgza8wq31f3-binutils-2.33.1.tar.zst.drv

works fine.  I did that for a number of packages. Also, I did not
observe any problems building 

After bisecting I found

    4a8e5ebfff gnu: binutils: Update to 2.41.

to be the culprit.  To be able to revert that, also

    8e9573784f gnu: binutils: Use gexps.

must be reverted, which is what I did on hurd-team.

Also, it seems that the Hurd build is broken on core-updates in several
ways.  I've been creating patches, see below (also pushed to hurd-team
branch).

I'm completely baffled by this, I've reverted these two commits on
hurd-team for now, trying to get a Hurd system to build.

Greetings,
Janneke