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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.68 X-Spam-Score: -2.68 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: DCE098353B X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-TUID: I1KPiHlaG9h2 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Since we are putting personal anecdotes onto the pile... spacecadet writes: >> The main turn-off people cite to me is our association with GNU. As a >> particularly poignant case study, in conversations with someone who >> has contributed significantly to Guix on my recommendation and did >> not stay around, the primary complaint was not the email-based >> workflow (which was noted as unusual but not overwhelming), but that >> the GNU affiliation *makes them feel uncomfortable in our community*. > > Since this argument is based off personal anecdote, I want to add my > voice to that; if guix split from GNU and the FSF I would become > equally hesitant to continue using and contributing to it. I do not want to speculate on what I would do in case of such a split, but at the end of the day the GNU and FSF "brand" is why I am here today. Few years (oh boy the time does fly) back when I was deciding what weird thing I should learn next, both Nix and GNU Guix were considered. While most of my friends recommended Nix, after some cursory research I decided to go with GNU Guix, to a large degree due to the perceived "guarantees" provided by both the GNU and FSF brands. Would I make the same choice today even on purely technical points? Probably. But I sure did not know enough to make qualified decision as a new potential user back then. If such split would to happen, it would be great to have a better justification than "it makes some people uncomfortable". Because the split (at least if not justified enough) would *also* "make some people uncomfortable" (well, at least me). 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