From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Marius Bakke Subject: Re: Add murmur. Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 22:54:21 +0100 Message-ID: <877f4x1zle.fsf@kirby.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> References: <20170201204312.3005-1-contact.ng0@cryptolab.net> <87mvdvxq9v.fsf@gnu.org> <20170209182030.ngn2dsdfbzsmymdj@wasp> <87efz7asit.fsf@gnu.org> <20170210213959.on6psfta6jcbjv2b@wasp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47888) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ccJ9B-0005sd-TH for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 16:54:31 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ccJ96-0005JH-QF for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2017 16:54:29 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20170210213959.on6psfta6jcbjv2b@wasp> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: ng0 , Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ng0 writes: > On 17-02-09 23:50:02, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> ng0 skribis: >>=20 >> > On 17-02-09 17:50:04, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> >> Hi ng0! >> >>=20 >> >> contact.ng0@cryptolab.net skribis: >> >>=20 >> >> > This patch adds an proposed change to mumble, murmur as an output. >> >>=20 >> >> I=E2=80=99m reluctant to =E2=80=9Cnon-standard=E2=80=9D outputs like = this. The reason for >> >> multiple outputs should be to reduce the closure size for standards >> >> uses. What do we gain by not included murmurd in =E2=80=9Cout=E2=80= =9D in this case? >> >>=20 >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ludo=E2=80=99. >> > >> > We remove the server component (murmurd) from the client component >> > (mumble). I imagine that if you run murmurd, you will not want mumble >> > in the same user profile. And if you run mumble, you probably don't >> > want murmurd. The default is a client, adding murmur output is logica= l. >> > But this is just my view.. I would not want a server unless I explicit= ly >> > expressed my intention to have it >> > >> > What do you think? >>=20 >> I think the only reason to separate things usually is size, not >> =E2=80=9Caesthetics.=E2=80=9D So I=E2=80=99d be in favor of keeping bot= h in the same output if >> there=E2=80=99s no size problem. >> > > Of course this is a theoretic issue, but the separation of server+client > where applicable when the nature of an application allows it makes sense > to me. What does `guix size` say about mumble:murmur compared to mumble:out? If the server does not depend on any graphical features, I think a separate output makes sense. mumble alone is ~1GiB. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEu7At3yzq9qgNHeZDoqBt8qM6VPoFAlieNo4ACgkQoqBt8qM6 VPopuQf/TO4D5FvOO966Am5O1770hh84ilZXA1U42RSfymups7+2uXcLemx3Prpb txF1Zpb1nwdO/Ukr3xk2eMBouSvI6W3HDI2LL6EUiQ3rL7wPap3qwpxS6ubn2OiR vreuVwC3jKozI6ls4ohFZVGfPB9y9ThJ7bmVLmAnoluqslOWmXxuIDPYI386/5zj ze4lyAwrbWR+WlgS7BT/azhsV+dJj7p+KvXoRoDdQHCuGXBYOCN7gjk9vbVqyC1T ToWE+FrnfIS/82nJn9Kq/zYGD4+1uLynrg8v6tZT4JPPWasEB1Z7CZXyWD/8EFmy 3cVwQ2u9XXV9n8Ouy3lVQIi2LSp1kA== =i5+s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--