From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ricardo Wurmus Subject: Re: my latest blog post Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2018 14:24:50 +0200 Message-ID: <877en8171p.fsf@elephly.net> References: <877enaimsn.fsf@fastmail.com> <87po11j46q.fsf@dustycloud.org> <87k1r91hkp.fsf@elephly.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47312) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fRzBu-0007xc-6T for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2018 08:11:27 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fRzBr-0002C0-1m for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2018 08:11:26 -0400 Received: from sender-of-o51.zoho.com ([135.84.80.216]:21113) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fRzBq-0002Ba-P7 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jun 2018 08:11:22 -0400 In-reply-to: List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Catonano Cc: guix-devel , Joshua Branson Catonano writes: >> Andy=E2=80=99s time is still limited. What other people can do is discu= ss >> *specific* cases on guile-devel and work towards a solution. But please >> do not demand of others to explain everything in detail. (I=E2=80=99m d= irecting >> this at everyone who heeds my advice to go to guile-devel, not at any >> one person in particular.) In order to have a positive impact you also >> need to learn enough about the state of the art to ensure that the >> discussions can be productive. >> > > I think I demonstrated I am ready to put some effort into this > > And I think this remark is unfair I wrote this: But please do not demand of others to explain everything in detail. (I=E2=80=99m directing this at everyone who heeds my advice to go to guile-devel, not at any one person in particular.) Rephrasing: I=E2=80=99d like to point this out to people who take this opportunity to bemoan the lack of other features or who disagree with what they think are different priorities. You do not feel addressed if you know you=E2=80=99ve made efforts in this area. > And saying I should come on guile-dev and actually provide what I thin is > useful, nowing that I can't (not immediately is not a fair answer either > > Because it's equivalent to a "fuck you" Wow. No. I think that=E2=80=99s an *extremely* uncharitable reading of what I wrote.= I will refrain from further comments in this thread lest what I write will be misconstrued in a similar fashion. >> With regards to the shouting match on #guile that you linked in your >> blog post, I can only say that I would have likely stepped in had this >> happened when I was around. Textual communication certainly should not >> reach these levels of apparent aggression. >> > > What do you mean with "apparent" ? I=E2=80=99m pretty bad at gauging emotion in textual communication and it= =E2=80=99s generally not easy to infer the intended tone in short text messages. That said, the exchange you linked to appeared to me to be of an aggressive nature. That=E2=80=99s what I mean by =E2=80=9Capparent=E2=80= =9D. -- Ricardo