From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id qLaCI+LEsl50AgAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 06 May 2020 14:08:34 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id CFNbF+7Esl4SJwAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 06 May 2020 14:08:46 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [IPv6:2001:470:142::17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92CD4940B6B for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 14:08:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:41794 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jWKj7-0002HO-3g for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 06 May 2020 10:08:45 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53696) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jWKiw-0002F7-CE for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2020 10:08:34 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55725) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jWKiv-0002Nk-Va; Wed, 06 May 2020 10:08:33 -0400 Received: from [2001:980:1b4f:1:42d2:832d:bb59:862] (port=58212 helo=dundal.peder.onsbrabantnet.nl) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jWKiv-0004m9-BK; Wed, 06 May 2020 10:08:33 -0400 From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen To: Ricardo Wurmus Subject: Re: hide more output Organization: AvatarAcademy.nl References: <878si541zo.fsf@elephly.net> X-Url: http://AvatarAcademy.nl Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 16:08:30 +0200 In-Reply-To: <878si541zo.fsf@elephly.net> (Ricardo Wurmus's message of "Wed, 06 May 2020 15:38:51 +0200") Message-ID: <877dxpkvfl.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 X-Spam-Score: -1.01 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 2001:470:142::17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Scan-Result: default: False [-1.01 / 13.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; GENERIC_REPUTATION(0.00)[-0.49633042904946]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:470:142::/48:c]; IP_REPUTATION_HAM(0.00)[asn: 22989(0.12), country: US(-0.00), ip: 2001:470:142::17(-0.50)]; DWL_DNSWL_FAIL(0.00)[2001:470:142::17:server fail]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.50)[cached: eggs.gnu.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILLIST(-0.20)[mailman]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22989, ipnet:2001:470:142::/48, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[larch=yhetil.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[janneke@gnu.org,guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; URIBL_BLOCKED(0.00)[gnu.org:email,joyofsource.com:url,lilypond.org:url,avataracademy.com:url]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[gnu.org]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; DNSWL_BLOCKED(0.00)[2001:470:142::17:from]; FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST(0.00)[] X-TUID: DWQjGOg85A2z Ricardo Wurmus writes: > when installing a few packages we see output like this: > > $ guix install zile-on-guile vim-full > The following packages will be installed: > zile-on-guile 2.4.14-0.fd09781 > vim-full 8.2.0411 > > 9.4 MB will be downloaded: > /gnu/store/vf7w4yiax38ra7x8aqqvbnc38c0ldgpm-zile-on-guile-2.4.14-0.fd0= 9781 > /gnu/store/dnj9wljcck9vdwgp7dwxk00qnnk1g3c5-vim-full-8.2.0411 > downloading from https://ci.guix.gnu.org/nar/lzip/dnj9wljcck9vdwgp7dwxk00= qnnk1g3c5-vim-full-8.2.0411... [..] > While I=E2=80=99m sure many of us have gotten used to this I think we don= =E2=80=99t need > to show quite as much information. My proposal is to hide the > =E2=80=9Cdownloading from =E2=80=9D by default, because = the URLs don=E2=80=99t > really matter to users. We can unhide that bit of info when slightly > higher verbosity is requested. > > What do you think? +1 I've been using --verbosity=3D1 a lot, lately; I'm all for having another, more quiet but not silent level and bumping the defaults. Greetings, janneke --=20 Jan Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond http://lilypond.org Freelance IT http://JoyofSource.com | Avatar=C2=AE http://AvatarAcademy.com