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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: ~abcdw/rde-devel@lists.sr.ht, guix-devel@gnu.org, Andrew Tropin Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619989388; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=Hrdnkg+fVIWOhPmagysI525MFj+ap8lstE+aHnVeQgI=; b=INFDLBg3y6xYFPxT97dgoSY/NlHABMKOaIkX8Ml+eAvmDRDS3WHEIN/Vymt0K2W+pDw4U9 QSaOus5OXYCWgVUHGcOUASsuax5mtA1D7ZCuWyidi5fcpY7CrQrUjEYf87HSoUpVqEhH0w 2wle34XJEwyShrNmUaTuC0dB3IRRrNYvTmwLIhvLMpgLOQbkXZ4uPCFdXeL+oUcrd49GT8 AxJBXVoEJAPZwEsjRRlQKLnCgNfIfGEPT2NeVCsOdFvncIu0IwGx2lh00+OscVpKhnYmQF gKQUHvAz3ISQomhca07fNfI7U8Iggh+PiUcHoe9P30Pc/LA14BccLPrzt8Ul4w== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619989388; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=TJUdmLDSXYyj7ZOhU4O2jXV9bI4d4paM4p10M3qV9wQCdPBDiDtLsXiTTGrsdDx/tnkUud pVdonc2Ihmkp96GwPHQ0rlO/cKCpX8fLleB6z3hN2GEy/OaoCI+OPrFd8jsRfY95oCSozq d31NGzRUcgDvL8ciDL+gg80iED10OBKodI3uxcOYRTw2nZ9xPfA1dzko0Tso44GFWKVIuf xtUqHA0NHZp4FpIEXUmLEOP+CVC750ER1JO6WGzo61iQU5Z6eTjbtU0YmDv3TIQkOxJA1Y TJzNWDcRMOv1bG4mir5W6Z9OU3VGCBjbBTLHd2CFpJrlugmNyBYUNUyDBk3MAQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.96 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 8F75F15CF4 X-Spam-Score: -2.96 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: jFXRkpgbS3fq Hi, Xinglu Chen skribis: > On Fri, Apr 30 2021, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: [...] >> Since this kind of tool is rather unusual (there=E2=80=99s no real equiv= alent >> I=E2=80=99m aware of in other distros) > > Nix Home Manager[2] is very similar to Guix Home, it allows for the same > kind of declarative configuration as Guix Home, but using Nix. I have > been using and hacking on Guix Home on NixOS and it=E2=80=99s getting clo= ser to > replacing Nix Home Manager for me. :) Ah sure, I=E2=80=99ve heard about this one. By =E2=80=9Cother distros=E2= =80=9D I really meant the =E2=80=9Ctraditional=E2=80=9D distros. :-) >> I think the manual will have to carefully explain what problems this >> solves and explain why someone would want to use it. For example, I >> think the term =E2=80=9Chome environment=E2=80=9D should be defined upfr= ont (I=E2=80=99d >> summarize it as user configuration files + user services, from my >> reading.) > > Plus user packages and state management, e.g. automatically cloning Git > repositories the user has declared in their config.scm, or periodically > rsync=E2=80=99ing some files with a remote host. Right! >> If people agree, I think we could aim for merging it in the next Guix >> release, which would leave us a few months. > > To clarify, do you mean v1.3.0 or v1.4.0 (or whatever it=E2=80=99s going = to be > called)? IIUC v1.3.0 is going to be released in a few weeks (rc1 was > just announced), that might not be enough time for merging Guix Home as > the API for some of the core services are still subject to change. WDYT > Andrew? I meant 1.4.0 (or whatever it=E2=80=99ll be called). Thanks! Ludo=E2=80=99.