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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 12BC15887D X-Migadu-Scanner: mx1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.16 X-Spam-Score: -4.16 X-TUID: tYa0+DU8KitU Hi, Csepp writes: [...] >>> Regarding the GNU changelog commits, I really dislike them. They're >>> redundant busy-work as far as I'm concerned. And while I'd like to say >>> they're no longer necessary, because we have better tooling >> >> As said before, I use them all the time through >> git log | grep "whatever I am looking for" >> or the interactive >> git log >> then "/" for searching inside the less command; I find it useful to a point >> that I have moved to this style for all my coding projects. >> >> So as far as I am concerned, they are tremendously useful. Well, that may >> be due to a lack of git knowledge, of course! But while in other projects >> I often find I need to look at the content of commits, in Guix it is often >> enough to just look at the changelog. >> >> Andreas > > What's wrong with grepping the contents as well? It's like a 100 times slower, at least on my low spec machine. It's also not as obvious (you search for lines added or removed or changed, not easy language such as 'gnu: package-name: Add'). -- Thanks, Maxim