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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 888B315000 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -9.54 X-Spam-Score: -9.54 X-TUID: gNuvW4W6gwRE Hi Felix, Felix Lechner writes: > Hi Ian, > > On Thu, Jun 27 2024, Ian Eure wrote: > >> The nss package updates frequently, around once a month. [...]=20 >> I'm >> considering options to balance update frequency vs. huge=20 >> rebuilds. > > Your plan sounds reasonable but my opinion is inconsequential.=20 > Instead, > I'd like to point out that you are not alone: > > Wouldn't you like it if two days a month were set aside to allow=20 > uploads > that trigger large rebuilds? The approach would pool intensive=20 > uploads > in the time domain rather than how we do it now in space, namely > branches. > I think this is probably a good idea, though the implementation=20 might be difficult to manage. I=E2=80=99m not sure where the patches=20 would go if not some short-lived branch, so we=E2=80=99d still likely have= =20 the space complexity. A one-month timebox for large changes,=20 where they merge or get backed out at the end, seems like it could=20 be a reasonable way to break down some of the long-running=20 branches. One thing we should be considerate of is users with limited=20 bandwidth. Even if Guix has the compute to build and bandwidth to=20 serve, not all of its users will. Thanks, =E2=80=94 Ian