From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ni* Subject: Re: Guix website Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:32:10 +0100 Message-ID: <8760zgatxx.fsf@grrlz.net> References: <20151230111841.GA12100@thebird.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35956) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aEHnX-0001mZ-Jy for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2015 09:32:20 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aEHnT-0006dj-KT for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2015 09:32:19 -0500 Received: from latitanza.investici.org ([82.94.249.234]:63071) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aEHnT-0006dS-EH for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2015 09:32:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20151230111841.GA12100@thebird.nl> (Pjotr Prins's message of "Wed, 30 Dec 2015 12:18:41 +0100") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Pjotr Prins Cc: "guix-devel@gnu.org" Pjotr Prins writes: > I just had a look at the Guix website and it appears to advertise > liberating, dependable and hackable. > > Now I am not going to say this is bad, it appeals to *me*, but it does > address hackers more than system administrators who ought to switch to > GNU Guix. The man who wrote this > > http://www.vitavonni.de/blog/201503/2015031201-the-sad-state-of-sysadmin-in-the-age-of-containers.html > > should have mentioned Guix. Right? > > So, what can we change to attract the right crowd? I strongly suggest > to weigh in on 'reproducible software deployment', security and > certification. > > What do you think? Can we first and foremost pitch reproducibility? > More and more people will start to understand the binary installation > problem and look for *real* solutions that can handle complexity. They > will come to us and tell their *hackers* to look into it ;) > > Pj. > > (PS Thanks Dave for the link). > In my opinion if the selfdescription is to be changed, it should still reflect that it is hackable, liberating and dependable, I think this is a good description too. So something like "GNU/Guix - your hackable, liberating and dependable (...) with an emphasis on/move towards reproducible builds." or something better than this sentence. -- ng/Ni* http://libertad.pw:8080 Email is public. Talk to me in private: https://psyced.org:34443/~niasterisk privacy respecting, secure communication: BM-2cSj8qEigE3CMaLU3CwPZf7T3LvzvnttsC (bitmessage)